Back the Likely Winner Automation Bot for Horse Racing

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ShaunWhite
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bimbi wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:13 pm
Thanks ,odds ,say 1.3 ,its not impossible,right?
Depends on how fast the price is coming in.

There are no definitive answers to your questions about matching in play. If you want to back a horse you need to find people who are prepared to lay it. Would you lay what looks like a certain winner?
gooner7165
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Hi Dallas

If I wanted to back a selection at for example 1.7 but only if the rest of the field were trading above say 4.00 how would be the best way to go about this?

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gooner7165 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:51 pm
Hi Dallas

If I wanted to back a selection at for example 1.7 but only if the rest of the field were trading above say 4.00 how would be the best way to go about this?

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The odds you back at are set on the parameters tab (currently 1.20), and the odds the bet is triggered at is set on the fixed odds conditions tab (currently 1.35)

Then add a another fixed odds condition
Selection; Nominated By Betfair Price (in order of favourtism) 2
Back price is
Greater than 4.0

ie, your saying the price of 2nd fav is greater than 4.0, therefore all other runners will be even higher
gooner7165
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Ahh got it.

Thanks for your help and prompt reply.
gooner7165
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Hi Dallas

Just a thought, will using the fixed odds condition for the 2nd fav trading above a certain price still work if I have used the "Fix the order position" at the start of the race?
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gooner7165 wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:26 pm
Hi Dallas

Just a thought, will using the fixed odds condition for the 2nd fav trading above a certain price still work if I have used the "Fix the order position" at the start of the race?
No it would look only for the runner that was 2nd fav at start to be >2.0

Whats the reason for fixing the order?
Are you only wanting to back only the pre-race fav when <1.7 (rather than the first runner to trade below those odds)?
gooner7165
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I thought so.

I was using the fix the order rule another file but just looked at it again and there is no need.

Thanks for your help again.
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Dear Dallas,

maybe you can help me here. I setup now the Automation Rule, but i dont know why it sometimes not happen. I wanna back all Horses that drop inplay to odd 1.9 sometimes a Horse is matched and sometimes not. But i see 1/2/3 Horses that drop to 1.9 and deeper... Can you please please look at my baf file and tell me what did i wrong?? Thank you very much
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ocze0107
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Or maybe anyone can tell me how to setup the trigger. How big much be the range for the trigger to get matched on every horse. i'm very happy if anoyne help me
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ocze0107 wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:23 pm
Dear Dallas,

maybe you can help me here. I setup now the Automation Rule, but i dont know why it sometimes not happen. I wanna back all Horses that drop inplay to odd 1.9 sometimes a Horse is matched and sometimes not. But i see 1/2/3 Horses that drop to 1.9 and deeper... Can you please please look at my baf file and tell me what did i wrong?? Thank you very much
Is this not the same question I replied to earlier this evening via PM?
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Dallas wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:20 pm
ocze0107 wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:23 pm
Dear Dallas,

maybe you can help me here. I setup now the Automation Rule, but i dont know why it sometimes not happen. I wanna back all Horses that drop inplay to odd 1.9 sometimes a Horse is matched and sometimes not. But i see 1/2/3 Horses that drop to 1.9 and deeper... Can you please please look at my baf file and tell me what did i wrong?? Thank you very much
Is this not the same question I replied to earlier this evening via PM?
Yes, but at which odd i have to set the trigger? Is >1.91 then right? Or how much space is better? >1.92 or >2.00 or more dont know how to find the right setup.
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ocze0107 wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:38 pm
I wanna back all Horses that drop inplay to odd 1.9 sometimes a Horse is matched and sometimes not. But i see 1/2/3 Horses that drop to 1.9 and deeper...
Are you aware that inplay bets are delayed by BF? When BA sees the price is below 1.9, the price could be anywhere by the time your bet reaches the market. Might be 1.05 or it might be 500.

If you want to guarantee backing all horses that reach 1.9 you will need to place your order lower. You would have a back bet at a fixed price of 1.01 (or anything you like below 1.9) but conditional on the current price being <1.91.

This has already been explained several times in this thread. If you read it all I'm sure you will find it useful.
ocze0107
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Ok its worked nearly perfect but one small problem i got, sometimes he backed the horses inplay but not the winner , all loosers are backed at 1.90 but not the winner. I used Fixed Price 1.90 , is there a option in that drag and drop window, to say if you not catch 1.90 then backed next deeper odd?
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ocze0107 wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:47 pm
Ok its worked nearly perfect but one small problem i got, sometimes he backed the horses inplay but not the winner , all loosers are backed at 1.90 but not the winner. I used Fixed Price 1.90 , is there a option in that drag and drop window, to say if you not catch 1.90 then backed next deeper odd?
You'll always get matched at the best available price, but if you want to catch them all, change the fixed price to 1.01.
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Crazyskier wrote:
Fri May 06, 2016 11:14 am
stu410 wrote:Carl...22.10... (1.10 odds) return and lost..
This is the issue with any of these types of IP strategies, I find. Lots of small wins, only to be wiped out by 2-3 large losses in a day.

I do find more consistency in backing a horse TO PLACE in play; smaller returns of course, but FAR fewer losses.

The liquidity on in-play PLACE market trading is quite considerable lately...
"I do find more consistency in backing a horse TO PLACE in play; smaller returns of course, but FAR fewer losses."

I've tried to set this up with 2 x rule (.baf files).
Rule 1. Creating a stored signal (dm1) when a horse hits 1.9 LTP, on the WIN market - this works!!
Rule 2. Placing a back bet on "TO PLACE" market on the same horse - this never works!!

Tried BA support but they asked me to try find a solution on the forum.

Rule 1: (TBP bet.baf)
11/02/2020 14:40:27: Market has been unsuspended
11/02/2020 14:41:45: [G_Auto] : Store Value (Shared) for event: dm1 = 1
11/02/2020 14:42:06: Market has been suspended


I have both files if anyone would care to assist
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