Back 2 Lay the Front Runner Guardian Automation Bot

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Dasmith21
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Please also see this screen shot, it doesn't quite match the one you posted earlier.
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Dasmith21
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Yes i want to keep bets when it goes in play, but at the moment it doesnt do that, i have to press keep all manually, and id like that bit automating if possible.
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It looks like your using a older version on Bet Angel (it will tell you at the top left corner of your main trading screen which version number your using)
The latest is V1.46.1 downloaded from link below
http://www.betangel.com/download/?product=BetAngelPro

If you are already using V1.46.1 let me know as it will then be a display issue
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It says V 1.45.0, ive also set it up in practise mode, i assume that doesnt matter?
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Dasmith21 wrote:It says V 1.45.0, ive also set it up in practise mode, i assume that doesnt matter?
It would be worth updating to the latest version as it has the new streaming option so can update prices 10 times faster and is far better for automation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpjYfN1UlIc

If you update to V1.46.1 the option missing will appear and you can follow the details i gave on the last page to fix the 'keep bets'
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Cheers Dallas, once again, superb support given.
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Please can I get some guidance setting up a simple B2L automation.

Can I first ask, I take it with automation we still have to set an exit based on how many ticks we want, there is no way to set a %?

I would like to set up a simple B2L automation but one where I can choose which horse I want the automation to apply to.
I noticed with the video with Peter importing a tennis baf there was an option to choose which player to apply the automation to as a drop down menu in Guardian under 'Automation Nominated Selection 1' is this possible to set up on a horse race?

Or do I need with each race to select the horse by using 'Edit rules file' and then under General - Applies to selection - Choose selection - by name?

Also with a Keep Bets rule can I apply it under General - Selection (conditions only) - ANY Selection?
Or does it also need to be Choose selection - by name. if I want the rules to apply to my one chosen horse in the race?

Thank you in advance for any help.
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Dadders wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:05 pm
Please can I get some guidance setting up a simple B2L automation.

Can I first ask, I take it with automation we still have to set an exit based on how many ticks we want, there is no way to set a %?

I would like to set up a simple B2L automation but one where I can choose which horse I want the automation to apply to.
I noticed with the video with Peter importing a tennis baf there was an option to choose which player to apply the automation to as a drop down menu in Guardian under 'Automation Nominated Selection 1' is this possible to set up on a horse race?

Or do I need with each race to select the horse by using 'Edit rules file' and then under General - Applies to selection - Choose selection - by name?

Also with a Keep Bets rule can I apply it under General - Selection (conditions only) - ANY Selection?
Or does it also need to be Choose selection - by name. if I want the rules to apply to my one chosen horse in the race?

Thank you in advance for any help.
You can change the offset from ticks to % on the parameters tab, it's also made so that you can select the horse/s you want to B2L on the main guardian page (just like on the video you seen).
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I have a similar rule to this, back to lay, back bet goes in OK, lay appears telling me the lay odds aimed for, the lay bet and the odds the stop will be triggered at. Problem I can see from the log is when the stop is triggered the new lay bet is the amount of money as the original lay?? Therfore the lay is for far too much money:

05/06/2017 19:23:57: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
05/06/2017 19:28:59: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
05/06/2017 19:40:45: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
05/06/2017 19:40:45: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
05/06/2017 19:40:45: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
05/06/2017 19:40:49: [G_Auto] : £ 25.00 Back bet placed on Udontdodou at 3.85. Fully matched at 3.95. Ref: 10203 ( Offsetting by 100 ticks with greening. Trailing Stop at 10 ticks. Place stop at 20 ticks )
05/06/2017 19:40:50: [G_Auto] : £ 58.43 Lay bet placed on Udontdodou at 1.69. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10204
05/06/2017 19:41:05: Stop triggered. Modify bet 10204 from 58.43 @ 1.69 to 58.43 @ 5.4 New Ref: 10205
05/06/2017 19:42:01: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

From the matched bets log it seems both bets were matched, including New Lay 10205 although the log is not reporting this??

Confused!
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Logs only report what happens as a bet arrives in the market (matched, unmatched, offset etc)

The log shows your stop was triggered and placed within 15 secs of the back bet being matched, i would not advise using a stop with such a large offset amount. Stops use the offset bet as their value so you will massively over lay your trade doing this, unless you run a separate green up rule afterwards but that could get even messier
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That seems a bit strange Dallas, surely the software should work out the correct new lay to place at the required stop if the market reverses?
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Or am I miss understanding how a trailing stop works??
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Niko wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:04 am
That seems a bit strange Dallas, surely the software should work out the correct new lay to place at the required stop if the market reverses?
That's why a 'global settings' stop loss can only be selected and used with a offset bet
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Dallas wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:31 pm
Niko wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:04 am
That seems a bit strange Dallas, surely the software should work out the correct new lay to place at the required stop if the market reverses?
That's why a 'global settings' stop loss can only be selected and used with a offset bet
So in the automation rule I have created, where you expect a horse to win from the off, but want to guard against a reverse, how should I configure my stop please?
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Niko wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:43 pm
Dallas wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:31 pm
Niko wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:04 am
That seems a bit strange Dallas, surely the software should work out the correct new lay to place at the required stop if the market reverses?
That's why a 'global settings' stop loss can only be selected and used with a offset bet
So in the automation rule I have created, where you expect a horse to win from the off, but want to guard against a reverse, how should I configure my stop please?
If your using a stop in-running i would always advise using a monetry one as that can at least be set to trigger multiple times so far more likely to get you out (unlike a global setting stop loss which will only trigger once)
http://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopic ... 47&t=11488
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