Create a No Lose Trade on Fav and Profit on the Field Guardian Automation Bot

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Dipstick
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thanks as always Dallas - i already had the "keep" functionality on and so that explains it (I have re-set my clock which was about 15 seconds behind as well).

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durango
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Hi Dallas,
This was working fine ,followed instructions about greening up for a profit or loss, but this is what happened
After it greened up for a loss of £3 it was layed again below is the log

09/01/2020 18:43:34: Market changed to ChelmC 9th Jan - 19:00 1m2f Nov Stks
09/01/2020 19:00:00: [G_Auto] : £ 26.60 Back bet placed on Bright Melody at 2.88. Fully matched at 2.88. Ref: 10112
09/01/2020 19:02:33: Market has been suspended
09/01/2020 19:02:35: Market is in-play
09/01/2020 19:02:36: Market has been unsuspended
09/01/2020 19:02:38: [G_Auto] : Greened up Bright Melody by Laying 23.57 at 3.25

surely this is where the bot should have stopped
but
09/01/2020 19:02:41: [G_Auto] : £ 30.49 Lay bet placed on Bright Melody at 2.64. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10114
09/01/2020 19:04:17: [G_Auto] : Greened up Bright Melody by Backing 21.18 at 3.8
09/01/2020 19:04:40: Market has been suspended
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durango wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:16 pm
Hi Dallas,
This was working fine ,followed instructions about greening up for a profit or loss, but this is what happened
After it greened up for a loss of £3 it was layed again below is the log

09/01/2020 18:43:34: Market changed to ChelmC 9th Jan - 19:00 1m2f Nov Stks
09/01/2020 19:00:00: [G_Auto] : £ 26.60 Back bet placed on Bright Melody at 2.88. Fully matched at 2.88. Ref: 10112
09/01/2020 19:02:33: Market has been suspended
09/01/2020 19:02:35: Market is in-play
09/01/2020 19:02:36: Market has been unsuspended
09/01/2020 19:02:38: [G_Auto] : Greened up Bright Melody by Laying 23.57 at 3.25

surely this is where the bot should have stopped
but
09/01/2020 19:02:41: [G_Auto] : £ 30.49 Lay bet placed on Bright Melody at 2.64. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10114
09/01/2020 19:04:17: [G_Auto] : Greened up Bright Melody by Backing 21.18 at 3.8
09/01/2020 19:04:40: Market has been suspended
This rule file triggers a lay bet 5 secs after going in-play and its that which needs to be matched to create a no lose trade

If you add a green-up rule to prevent a full loss it will need to trigger sometime after the lay bet or arm the lay bet to fire earlier, otherwise, you'll need to add a condition to the lay bet so it doesn't trigger if the green-up rule has fired
durango
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Thanks very much Dallas

'you'll need to add a condition to the lay bet so it doesn't trigger if the green-up rule has fired'

Could you tell me how to do this ?
thanks
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durango wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:29 pm
Thanks very much Dallas

'you'll need to add a condition to the lay bet so it doesn't trigger if the green-up rule has fired'

Could you tell me how to do this ?
thanks
On your green up rule go onto the 'Signal' tab and set a signal on the selection (give it any name you want)
Then on your lay rule add a 'Signal Set' condition
Is the signal named (whatever you called it above)
NOT set with a value

and that will stop it triggering if the green up rule has fired
durango
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On your green up rule go onto the 'Signal' tab and set a signal on the selection (give it any name you want)
Then on your lay rule add a 'Signal Set' condition
Is the signal named (whatever you called it above)
NOT set with a value

and that will stop it triggering if the green up rule has fired

thanks
do I set a signal in both hedge profit[offset] and hedge loss [stop loss] and if so do I keep value as 1
also is it just for 'signal for current selection' and not for' signal for market'
And
is the lay rule 'lay fav[in-play] ? and if so should value be 0
thanks
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durango wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:09 pm
On your green up rule go onto the 'Signal' tab and set a signal on the selection (give it any name you want)
Then on your lay rule add a 'Signal Set' condition
Is the signal named (whatever you called it above)
NOT set with a value

and that will stop it triggering if the green up rule has fired

thanks
do I set a signal in both hedge profit[offset] and hedge loss [stop loss] and if so do I keep value as 1
also is it just for 'signal for current selection' and not for' signal for market'
And
is the lay rule 'lay fav[in-play] ? and if so should value be 0
thanks
Use the same signal name and value on both green-up rules (doesn't matter what value you give it)

Best to set it on the market, then make sure the lay rule signal condition looks for the signal on the market also
durango
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Brilliant thanks Dallas
durango
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Hi Dallas
in 1.10 ling backed fav greened up for a loss then made a further back bet ..I think I followed your instructions ..but must be something wrong ?
durango
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sorted now ..thanks
HailRed
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Hi

Is there not a loss if the lay by bet doesnt get matched?
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HailRed wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:50 am
Hi

Is there not a loss if the lay by bet doesnt get matched?
Yes

" If the lay is matched you will have no liability (not able to lose) if the fav goes on to win but if any other runner wins you will have made a profit."
HailRed
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So in essence you can lose if the fav gets backed but doesn’t get matched when layed and then goes onto to lose the race?. The tile of this post is misleading lol
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HailRed wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:26 pm
So in essence you can lose if the fav gets backed but doesn’t get matched when layed and then goes onto to lose the race?. The tile of this post is misleading lol
I'm not sure it is if its read correctly, it just describes what the bot does "Create a No Lose Trade on Fav and Profit on the Field"
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twenty2
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Hi Dallas, Can this automation be used in conjuction with the Dob with moving exit strategy ?
Ive just set all selections to Nominated Slection 1 and removed the back bet instruction from the dob file, does this look right, im going to run it in demo mode today then ticker with a few settings ?
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