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[nick11]

Thanks all done and winning.

[nick11]

Bets not matched so i cancelled . several thousand on each side when i looked so took time too mutch tim eto get my bets matched i guess as thousands of pounds in front of me waiting to get matched?

25/02/2017 15:15:00: Market changed to Newc 25th Feb - 15:20 2m Nov Chs
25/02/2017 15:19:53: [G_Auto] : £ 4.00 Back bet placed on The Dutchman at 2.1. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 86370155720 ( Offsetting by 20 ticks. )
25/02/2017 15:19:53: [G_Auto] : £ 4.00 Lay bet placed on The Dutchman at 1.85. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 86370156360
25/02/2017 15:19:57: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 86370155720 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'
25/02/2017 15:19:57: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 86370156360 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'

25/02/2017 15:20:11: Cancelling bets 86370155720
25/02/2017 15:20:12: Cancelling bets 86370156360
25/02/2017 15:22:27: Market has been suspended
25/02/2017 15:22:28: Market is in-play

[Dallas]

Bets not matched so i cancelled . several thousand on each side when i looked so took time too mutch tim eto get my bets matched i guess as thousands of pounds in front of me waiting to get matched?

If you have the ladder screen open you can see exactly where your bets are and if more money jumps in front, you could then drag your bet down to a lower price to get it matched if you want

[nick11]

had £20 bet on fav using guardina and the bet did not get matched so lost £20.

is there anything i can do to reduce the risk?

such as better quality racing, or £250,000+ liquid market

thanks

[nick11]

Time out message - first time had this, what causd it me clicking too fast on modifying price?

prices froze and could not get any updates of prices

04/03/2017 14:51:46: £ 10.00 Back bet placed on Happy Diva at 2.72. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 86906942976
04/03/2017 14:51:46: £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on Happy Diva at 2.7. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 86906942981
04/03/2017 14:53:16: Modify bet 86906942976 from 10 @ 2.72 to 10 @ 2.7 New Ref: 86907172972
04/03/2017 14:53:17: Modify bet 86907172972 from 10 @ 2.7 to 10 @ 2.68 New Ref: 86907176677
04/03/2017 14:54:04: Modify bet 86907176677 from 10 @ 2.68 to 10 @ 2.66 New Ref: 86907305316
04/03/2017 14:54:08: Modify bet 86907305316 from 10 @ 2.66 to 10 @ 2.64 New Ref: 86907311400
04/03/2017 14:55:22: Modify bet 86907311400 from 10 @ 2.64 to 10 @ 2.62 New Ref: 86907531565
04/03/2017 14:55:28: Modify bet 86907531565 from 10 @ 2.62 to 10 @ 2.6 New Ref: 86907548882
04/03/2017 14:55:48: Modify bet 86907548882 from 10 @ 2.6 to 10 @ 2.58 New Ref: 86907609644
04/03/2017 14:55:50: Modify bet 86907609644 from 10 @ 2.58 to 10 @ 2.56 New Ref: 86907618171
04/03/2017 14:55:57: Modify bet 86907618171 from 10 @ 2.56 to 10 @ 2.54 New Ref: 86907635871
04/03/2017 14:56:36: Warning: Timeout occurred while modifying price: NULL
04/03/2017 14:56:36: Modify bet 86907635871 from 10 @ 2.54 to 10 @ 2.52 Error changing price ( NULL ).
04/03/2017 14:56:38: Warning: Timeout occurred while modifying price: NULL
04/03/2017 14:56:38: Modify bet 86907635871 from 10 @ 2.54 to 10 @ 2.52 Error changing price ( NULL ).
04/03/2017 14:56:40: Warning: Timeout occurred while modifying price: NULL
04/03/2017 14:56:40: Modify bet 86907635871 from 10 @ 2.54 to 10 @ 2.52 Error changing price ( NULL ).
04/03/2017 14:56:40: Warning: Timeout occurred while modifying price: NULL
04/03/2017 14:56:40: Modify bet 86907635871 from 10 @ 2.54 to 10 @ 2.52 Error changing price ( NULL ).
04/03/2017 14:56:41: Warning: Timeout occurred while modifying price: NULL
04/03/2017 14:56:41: Modify bet 86907635871 from 10 @ 2.54 to 10 @ 2.52 Error changing price ( NULL ).
04/03/2017 14:56:51: An error occurred while Greening Up Happy Diva by Backing 11.73 at 2.3 [2.3_11.73]: NULL
04/03/2017 15:00:01: [G_Auto] : Unable to place back bet on Happy Diva at 2. NULL

[westoncott]

Hi there. Quick question for Dallas. If I add a fill or kill option to this bot to clear the bet if the odds don't shorten enough to get the lay taken, am I right in thinking that I would have to give it a delay of somewhere around 240 to allow time for the race to start and the odds to develop in-running? Thanks.

[Dallas]

Hi there. Quick question for Dallas. If I add a fill or kill option to this bot to clear the bet if the odds don't shorten enough to get the lay taken, am I right in thinking that I would have to give it a delay of somewhere around 240 to allow time for the race to start and the odds to develop in-running? Thanks.

The fill/kill only applies to the opening part of the bet not the offset, once the offset lay is placed if you wanted to cancel after a specific time if still unmatched you would need to add a 'green up' rule or similar to do it.

[westoncott]

Thanks Dallas. Understand more now.

[westoncott]

Hi All, I now understand a lot more about how the automation rules work but I'm a bit confused about the LOG file. I ran the Free Bet on Favourite rule on three races this afternoon and they all worked fine. Looking in Betfair Profit and Loss Record I can see that I have either won or lost nothing. Just as it should be. But if I look at the automation Log file I can see that it places the initial back bet, and that it gets taken. However the lay bet is logged as having been put into the market and been totally unmatched, There are no further log entries about this lay bet having been matched later - but it must have been, Why does the log file not show this? Any ideas?

[Dallas]

There are no further log entries about this lay bet having been matched later - but it must have been, Why does the log file not show this? Any ideas?

The log only records bets as they reach the market, if they are not matched until a later time this wont be shown in the log and you need to refer to your matched bets history for this

[westoncott]

Thanks again Dallas.

[Willygubbins]

Hi

I placed a back bet at the start of 6f class 4 Maiden Stakes (Plus 10) race at 14:30 today and I have offset to lay by 1 tick down the odds, but it never matched.

Has that ever happened to anyone?

01/09/2016 14:32:03: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
01/09/2016 14:32:03: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
01/09/2016 14:32:04: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
01/09/2016 14:32:05: [G_Auto] : £ 1100.00 Back bet placed on Swiss Storm at 1.8. Fully matched at 1.89. Ref: 10010 ( Offsetting by 1 ticks. )
01/09/2016 14:32:05: [G_Auto] : £ 11.00 Lay bet placed on Swiss Storm at 1.87. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10011
01/09/2016 14:32:05: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 10011 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'

01/09/2016 14:32:06: [G_Auto] : £ 1100.00 Lay bet placed on Swiss Storm at 1.88. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10012
01/09/2016 14:32:06: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 10012 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'

01/09/2016 14:33:16: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

I'm not entirely sure of your question? If you are asking whether a fav will drift out without a single tick of steaming? then yes this happens alot in maiden, novice, claimers and sellers. Just out of interest what made you pick a Maiden Stakes race? and this was in practice mode right?

[mickypaul72]

If my thinking is correct I have thought of a No Lose Bet. Firstly you can LAY the draw on the Villa game tomorrow @3.2 with a stake of £100 which leaves a liability of £220. Then if you BACK the draw with another bookmaker (in this case Sky bet) @3.20 with a stake of £69 which leaves a return of £220 which covers the LAY the draw liability.
So if the lay the draw bet wins you win £100 minus the £69 draw bet which leaves £31 profit.
If the back the draw bet wins you win £220 which covers the losing lay the draw liabily leaving zero profit.
So in this example the only profit will be the £31 from the lay bet because should the back bet win the returns are used to cover the liability fron the lay bet.

Please let me know if im missing something

[BetScalper]

If my thinking is correct I have thought of a No Lose Bet. Firstly you can LAY the draw on the Villa game tomorrow @3.2 with a stake of £100 which leaves a liability of £220. Then if you BACK the draw with another bookmaker (in this case Sky bet) @3.20 with a stake of £69 which leaves a return of £220 which covers the LAY the draw liability.
So if the lay the draw bet wins you win £100 minus the £69 draw bet which leaves £31 profit.
If the back the draw bet wins you win £220 which covers the losing lay the draw liabily leaving zero profit.
So in this example the only profit will be the £31 from the lay bet because should the back bet win the returns are used to cover the liability fron the lay bet.

Please let me know if im missing something

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[Dallas]

If my thinking is correct I have thought of a No Lose Bet. Firstly you can LAY the draw on the Villa game tomorrow @3.2 with a stake of £100 which leaves a liability of £220. Then if you BACK the draw with another bookmaker (in this case Sky bet) @3.20 with a stake of £69 which leaves a return of £220 which covers the LAY the draw liability.
So if the lay the draw bet wins you win £100 minus the £69 draw bet which leaves £31 profit.
If the back the draw bet wins you win £220 which covers the losing lay the draw liabily leaving zero profit.
So in this example the only profit will be the £31 from the lay bet because should the back bet win the returns are used to cover the liability fron the lay bet.

Please let me know if im missing something

£220 from the back bet is your total return including stake, your profit is only £152

You would need to back for £100 to achieve £220 profit and effectively scratch your lay bet and make £0 no matter what the result (but lose a bit in commission if the lay bet wins).