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Dallas wrote:
forumuser wrote:Hi Dallas, is there an opposite setting that could work on this at all?

Say lay a horse first, set the back bet at 20 ticks bigger and free bet if it loses and lose some if it wins?

Not sure you can set it this way though.

Thanks
Yes it can be done, only the usual offset cant be used to create a free bet if it loses so this part will have to be done slightly differently.

The easiest way is probably take the 'Lay the 1st to 2.0' bot and change the odds to 1.50 (or what ever odds you want to lay at)

Then instead of any offsets decide how many ticks profit you want and work out what the green up profit would be from that - then create a back bet to place at these odds for the green up amount after the above lay part has triggered.

For example if you wanted 50 ticks profit after the original lay @ 1.50 for £10 this would require a back bet at 2.0 for £5.
That will leave £0 if this horse still wins and £5 profit if any other horse wins

The add a back bet rule to it using the 'green plus' icon
Trigger just once and on parameters tab use 'Place at fixed odds' 2.0 for £5
then use the conditions
'Number of matched bets condition'
on selection is 'equal to' 1

That should do it
Is that lay rule available to download please.. ;)
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eminbe wrote:Is that lay rule available to download please.. ;)
No there is just the written instructions in the post above on which rule to start with and what edits need to be made to it.
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Do I need to create a new Guardian Automation Bot or edit the 'Create a Free Bet on the Fav Guardian Automation Bot' with the instructions you have provided.
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eminbe wrote:Do I need to create a new Guardian Automation Bot or edit the 'Create a Free Bet on the Fav Guardian Automation Bot' with the instructions you have provided.
The instructions where to edit the bot from this thread
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On lay bet its selection is any horses, I want to add a back bet to the same selection, How can I do that please.
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eminbe wrote:On lay bet its selection is any horses, I want to add a back bet to the same selection, How can I do that please.
Its in the last 5 lines of the instructions you have been following from above
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Hi

I placed a back bet at the start of 6f class 4 Maiden Stakes (Plus 10) race at 14:30 today and I have offset to lay by 1 tick down the odds, but it never matched.

Has that ever happened to anyone? :cry: :evil:

01/09/2016 14:32:03: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
01/09/2016 14:32:03: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
01/09/2016 14:32:04: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
01/09/2016 14:32:05: [G_Auto] : £ 1100.00 Back bet placed on Swiss Storm at 1.8. Fully matched at 1.89. Ref: 10010 ( Offsetting by 1 ticks. )
01/09/2016 14:32:05: [G_Auto] : £ 11.00 Lay bet placed on Swiss Storm at 1.87. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10011
01/09/2016 14:32:05: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 10011 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'

01/09/2016 14:32:06: [G_Auto] : £ 1100.00 Lay bet placed on Swiss Storm at 1.88. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10012
01/09/2016 14:32:06: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 10012 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'

01/09/2016 14:33:16: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
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betingonly wrote:Hi,

Thanks for all the info once again, trying to take it all in.

Today I tested this bot (Free Bet on the Fav Guardian Automation Bot), plus made my own called 'Bet 1-4' - which basically backs the first 4 favored horses and then attempts to green-up when a profit of above 99p is achieved.

Apart from one race - foreign one selected by mistake - every race returned a profit or broke even.

I did try my 'Bet 1-4' on one race which backed the first 4 horses, the 1st favorite won but it didn't green up a profit. I assume this may be because of the book %? Not sure how to compensate for that; perhaps back 3 rather than 4.

Anyway, I've attached a screenshot for you to see how using this bot and my own on the selected races today did what I wanted it too, £1-2 per race.

This sounds exactly what iv been looking for mate, could you upload the .baf file or copy and past the automation settings your using
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Hi guys.
I've read through all the posts on this topic.
How would I go about changing the rules/parameters to back favourites priced at 3.0 or under?
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Just add the following condtion

'Fixed odds condtion'
The Seletions 'Last traded price'
Is 'Less' Than 3.05
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As usual Dallas, many thanks.
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Hi Dallas,

First time i've used this automation file and wondering if you or anyone can see whats happen.

It seemed to place a back bet unmatched but then placed a offset lay bet which i thought shouldn't fire unless a back bet is matched.

Here is the log and my betfair account.

2016-11-03
16:49 78654305391 2016-11-03
16:39 GB ChelmC 3rd Nov / 16:40 6f Mdn / Odelouca
Lay 3.75 5.00 Lost (13.75) 58.10
2016-11-03
16:23 78653117492 2016-11-03
16:20 GB Newb 3rd Nov / 16:15 2m NHF
Comm Charged 5.26% On Net winnings of GBP0.38 - - - (0.02) 71.85


This is the log on betangel.

03/11/2016 16:39:39: [G_Auto] : £ 5.00 Back bet placed on Odelouca at 5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 78654305230 ( Offsetting by 15 ticks. )
03/11/2016 16:39:39: [G_Auto] : £ 5.00 Lay bet placed on Odelouca at 3.75. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 78654305391
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Deano wrote:Hi Dallas,

First time i've used this automation file and wondering if you or anyone can see whats happen.

It seemed to place a back bet unmatched but then placed a offset lay bet which i thought shouldn't fire unless a back bet is matched.
It places both the opening and offset at the same time with the opening back bet set to take best current price, for it to have a unmatched back bet the odd will of had to drop at the exact moment the rule triggered and then continued to shorten from then till winning the race.

To only have the offset placed after a opening bet is matched you just need to tick the fill/kill option on the parameters tab (the number of seconds can be set for as long as you want).
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Your log says the back was triggered at 5.0 seconds before the off and lay placed 30 ticks lower at 3.75
Looking at the timeform results it had a BSP 0f 3.61 so must of been a huge price crash in those final seconds - enough to even pass your lay before even going in play.
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Thanks for the quick response, really shouldn't of used it first time in the live environment. lesson learnt.
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