Bet Angel Automation - General : Make Market Scalping Guardian Automation Bot

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welshtrekker
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Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:37 pm

Apologies in advance if I sound like a total noob... too new to trading and a few things confuse. And also thanks for your input. I have read a number of threads, support here is great.

Literally in the last 30 mins, lots of trade outs that are scalps around £1 and £2 and £1.50, some out at zero, just one loss of £2 taken. Doing £5 bets.

So a little confused when bets settle and my balance simply returns to - where it was.

I'll keep an eye. Am aware of the commission but surely, profit should show as it did the other day.

On the automation script, I let it run till it greens. Often it greens giving me a loss. No probs with that if the big wins come as the greened figures only take around 20p to 50p. But, when using the automation, too many losses incurred and also once, would have been best to have not greened up. But that doesn't mean it does not work, I need to tweak it a bit. One bet netted about a tenner using it. Wondering if it should green all the time.

I am also looking at other bets, after testing, laying the draw. Not sure about laying the field, unless I can get confident about trade outs being caught in-race. Tried dutching, lol, think I best give that a wide berth.

Thanks again.

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Dallas
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Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:50 pm

Are you stopping the bot manually at certain times by disabling it? it does nt green till the final few seconds but as each back and lay is matched your profit is increased, as the figures you quoted are round numbers it suggests you are stopping the bot early and leaving all the profit on just that selection rather than letting it or manually greening it up to spread the profit equally across all selections
Have a read of thew two links and you ll understand the difference better
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11408
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11572


Its entirety upto you if and when you want to green up just as you can add or remove additional conditions to the bot, this along with all the other shared bots are uploaded to give new users a starting point and so they can see how they work and then build on them by watching them in action and deciding what can be added/changed to increase any profits

welshtrekker
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Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:23 pm

Thanks Dallas. No, not stopping the bot but as a check, will just not do anything on the next one. Sometimes I like to lay low as a race goes in-play so I will avoid that, even though unmatched.

Right now, trying to figure out why so many scalps have brought no profit from 4 races I think. This was not from your automation, these were all manual. Makes no sense how my balance has not budged other than to put money back in used for liabilities. :cry:

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Dallas
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Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:38 pm

Have a read through them links in previous post there not just related to the bot it sounds like your not greening up but just closing your trade (back bets amount equal to your lay bets amount)

welshtrekker
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Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:43 pm

Thanks Dallas.
That has cleared up everything and now I can understand all aspects of the processes. Thanks, now clear on when profit is taken, greening, when to green and the close trades.

But, love to know how to actually make some cash. A string of losses between 10p and 40p, with or without the bot. Sometimes a couple of quid won. Greening sure does save the bank from vanishing though.

I try to bet on most UK and IRE races. I have checked timeform, but find it poorly informs mostly. Usually watching trends works. Tried a combination of using the ladder with or without the trade profit calculators.

more to learn.

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DRED1
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Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:55 pm

Said it before but Dallas must keep Automation newbies here, great work and help.

But
"But, love to know how to actually make some cash".
But that my friend is the golden goose.

Dallas has always said, these downloads alone will not profit overtime.
But makes you wonder how many have a profitable automation system, over large sample. Will never know will we, really know .

But its fun trying
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marko236
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Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:16 pm

It takes time to learn automation, Dallas has created a big short cut for newbies to test, alter and add to his automation.

Someone will eventually come back on the forum that has done really well with his help.

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DRED1
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Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:41 pm

Spot on there totally agree. Lets hope it's me.

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Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:50 pm

welshtrekker wrote:love to know how to actually make some cash. A string of losses between 10p and 40p, with or without the bot. Sometimes a couple of quid won. Greening sure does save the bank from vanishing though.

I try to bet on most UK and IRE races. I have checked timeform, but find it poorly informs mostly. Usually watching trends works. Tried a combination of using the ladder with or without the trade profit calculators.

more to learn.
Have you watched any of the Bet Angel videos?
All are certainly worth a watch if your serious about learning to trade and getting the most out of the software - There is 35 videos alone just on "Trading horse racing markets"

https://www.youtube.com/user/betangeltv ... =dd&view=1

Also you should take the time to read through these posts from Jollygreen a ton of excellent and useful information in these
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8320

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Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:57 am

Great stuff from Jolly Green thanks for this

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