Signal For Favourite but only if certain trap
- MemphisFlash
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is there a way you use a signal for a dog race whereby you identify the favourite, but depending on which trap it is in, you either back or lay it?
If you set a signal on each selection (1 for row 1, 2 for row 2 etc)
Then on your back and lay rules (which are applied to the fav) add a signal value condition
Ie, back bet if signal value is equal to 1
back if signal value is equal to 4
lay if signal value is equal to 2
Essentially backing if fav is in row 1 or 4 and laying if its in row 2
Adding a number of place bets triggered condition on market is equal to 0
will ensure only one of them triggers even if the fav changes afterwards
Then on your back and lay rules (which are applied to the fav) add a signal value condition
Ie, back bet if signal value is equal to 1
back if signal value is equal to 4
lay if signal value is equal to 2
Essentially backing if fav is in row 1 or 4 and laying if its in row 2
Adding a number of place bets triggered condition on market is equal to 0
will ensure only one of them triggers even if the fav changes afterwards
- MemphisFlash
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you mean like this
what condition would i have to apply as the 4th favourite might not be trap 4?
what condition would i have to apply as the 4th favourite might not be trap 4?
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- MemphisFlash
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No, i am looking at a new strategy depending on certain distance of race. i have noticed on certain tracks depending on where the stalls are positioned for certain race distances that sometimes the dogs get crowded going into the first bend and a lot of bumping takes place.
Nowi dont know if all the tracks are the same width or if this is just a random thing.
I have noticed that trap 3 is the most vulnerable so i would be looking to lay, but if that trap is the favourite then i may be relutanct to lay and therefore look at backing providing it gets out cleanly.
Does that help you.
Nowi dont know if all the tracks are the same width or if this is just a random thing.
I have noticed that trap 3 is the most vulnerable so i would be looking to lay, but if that trap is the favourite then i may be relutanct to lay and therefore look at backing providing it gets out cleanly.
Does that help you.
Betfair row 1 = trap 1
Betfair row 2 = trap 2 ect.
(historic relative odds) Then if row price is below 2nd fav.
I dont really think you need a signal for what your trying to do.
you can add a signal for reference if you like , Trap 1 ,trap 2 .The value does not matter unless your using it in another rule. If you put that signal into another rule then you would reference that value.
Betfair row 2 = trap 2 ect.
(historic relative odds) Then if row price is below 2nd fav.
I dont really think you need a signal for what your trying to do.
you can add a signal for reference if you like , Trap 1 ,trap 2 .The value does not matter unless your using it in another rule. If you put that signal into another rule then you would reference that value.
So if you set a signal on each in order of favouritism
ie,
Set/Modify signal rule applied to 'By position in (order of favouritism) 1
Set a signal on selection with a value of 1 (assume we name it 'order')
Set/Modify signal rule applied to 'By position in (order of favouritism) 2
Set a signal on selection with a value of 2 named 'order'
and so on....... until you have all 6
Then create a back bet rule applied to Betfair row 3
with a signal value condition
named 'order' equal to 1
Then create a lay bet rule also applied to row 3
with a signal value condition
named 'order' greater than 2
That would back the fav if in row 3
or lay the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th fav
You could also add a fixed odds cond to your lay rule so doesn't trigger when odds are to high
Would that work for you?
ie,
Set/Modify signal rule applied to 'By position in (order of favouritism) 1
Set a signal on selection with a value of 1 (assume we name it 'order')
Set/Modify signal rule applied to 'By position in (order of favouritism) 2
Set a signal on selection with a value of 2 named 'order'
and so on....... until you have all 6
Then create a back bet rule applied to Betfair row 3
with a signal value condition
named 'order' equal to 1
Then create a lay bet rule also applied to row 3
with a signal value condition
named 'order' greater than 2
That would back the fav if in row 3
or lay the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th fav
You could also add a fixed odds cond to your lay rule so doesn't trigger when odds are to high
Would that work for you?
- MemphisFlash
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i think so. working on the logic on the bot now.
- MemphisFlash
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testing on remaining races tonight, but none are the race distance i need . typical, lol
- northbound
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I have race by race data since May 2018, including race track, distance and Betfair best lay price for each dog at scheduled off time.MemphisFlash wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:51 pmtesting on remaining races tonight, but none are the race distance i need . typical, lol
If you want me to run a search for you, just send me a pm.
- MemphisFlash
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i have data going back to 2013. but would be interested in what you have
- northbound
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Happy to help, just send me track/distance in a private message and I'll run the lay bet simulation for you.MemphisFlash wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:06 pmi have data going back to 2013. but would be interested in what you have
Or alternatively, just write it here in public.
- MemphisFlash
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enclose the baf file if anyone interested, might need tweaking though
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- MemphisFlash
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What i found in Belle Vue, they have had 1277 races from january until july.
Of those 1277 races this particular event has only happened 10 times.
That is a fantastic 99.22% effective.
I am going to data mine all the other tracks but i beleive it will be a similar story.
This is going to change how i automate greyhounds in the future.
Obviously i am not going to give any clues, but i am buiding a spreadsheet with all the information i have found.
Nose to the grindstone time for at least aweek to get all my data, but once my bot is in operation it will be on 24-7 every greyhound event around the world.
Doing Towcester Next, Following Same pattern.
think my light bulb moment has arrived after nearly 4 years,
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- MemphisFlash
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towcester done. still looking good.
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