World Cup 2018

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Euler wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:50 pm
Here is an excellent analysis on last nights match: -

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 43526.html
I’be analysed the game in great detail and came up with the conclusion that they didn’t know how to control the game after scoring too early & bottled it, like what Roy Keane was saying at half time, he was spot on.

England need to learn how to put teams to bed, (like the Sweden game) but against the likes of a stubborn Croatia, I did think England would win on Wednesday night but not surprised they didn’t.

Best game I think I’ve seen England play where they’ve been in control of a competitive game against a decent team was the 4-1 win against the Dutch back in ‘96.. over 20 years ago, I used to be on edge when watching England play.. excited, used to rush home from school to watch the World Cup qualifiers (away) when they used to be played in the afternoons (0-8 away win against Turkey, 1-4 away win against Yugoslavia if memory serves), but not anymore as I never expect them to do anything, this year was an exception BUT look at the opposition they had, Croatia was underestimated by all & England got found out.
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Didn't even realise we were playing!
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Korattt wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:06 pm
.. and the reason for England & Belgium playing in both 2nd strips is?
Section 24 of FIFA rule book... I think !!
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Halliday wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:39 pm
Korattt wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:06 pm
.. and the reason for England & Belgium playing in both 2nd strips is?
Section 24 of FIFA rule book... I think !!
can’t be arsed to look, I put it down to poor 2nd strip shirt sales
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Halliday wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:39 pm
Korattt wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:06 pm
.. and the reason for England & Belgium playing in both 2nd strips is?
Section 24 of FIFA rule book... I think !!
Oh yeah that rule! Surprised I didn't think of that one
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England got found out today, got exposed good an’ proper, however consider the countries they finished ahead of:

Germany
Spain
Portugal
Brazil
Argentina
Italy
Holland
Uruguay

and more importantly.. Scotland
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Just wished all the worlds best teams where there and not geographically.

I still cannot comprehend the fact that the like of Saudi Arabia usually make it to a World Cup. Why can’t it just be the 32 of the best teams.

And again why do nations that can’t produce a football team host a World Cup?

I’m all for opportunity. Anyway Qatar team will be unhiliated possibly 15-0 in every game in 4 years time.

That’s all I have to say on world cups.
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SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:57 pm
Just wished all the worlds best teams where there and not geographically.

I still cannot comprehend the fact that the like of Saudi Arabia usually make it to a World Cup. Why can’t it just be the 32 of the best teams.

And again why do nations that can’t produce a football team host a World Cup?

I’m all for opportunity. Anyway Qatar team will be unhiliated possibly 15-0 in every game in 4 years time.

That’s all I have to say on world cups.
OK, I know it wasn’t the World Cup that was won BUT I give you Greece & Denmark winning the Euros back in ‘04 & ‘92 respectively, it’s not always the “best” teams that win, take the FA Cup for example, Wimbledon, Southampton, Coventry, Wigan, underdogs DO win from time to time,

Take the 2002 World Cup for example, South Korea & Turkey both made it to the semis, both with a bit of luck could’ve been in the final.
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Korattt wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:06 pm
SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:57 pm
Just wished all the worlds best teams where there and not geographically.

I still cannot comprehend the fact that the like of Saudi Arabia usually make it to a World Cup. Why can’t it just be the 32 of the best teams.

And again why do nations that can’t produce a football team host a World Cup?

I’m all for opportunity. Anyway Qatar team will be unhiliated possibly 15-0 in every game in 4 years time.

That’s all I have to say on world cups.
OK, I know it wasn’t the World Cup that was won BUT I give you Greece & Denmark winning the Euros back in ‘04 & ‘92 respectively, it’s not always the “best” teams that win, take the FA Cup for example, Wimbledon, Southampton, Coventry, Wigan, underdogs DO win from time to time,

Take the 2002 World Cup for example, South Korea & Turkey both made it to the semis, both with a bit of luck could’ve been in the final.
jeez - SH, your post comes over as a white supremisist dogma. the world should be always looking to the underdog and should always be opening doors, rather than buliding bridges (unless of course those bridges connect meanifully). sorry, but that's how this reads...

i leave you with a martin luther king quote:

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
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jimibt wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:19 pm
Korattt wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:06 pm
SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:57 pm
Just wished all the worlds best teams where there and not geographically.

I still cannot comprehend the fact that the like of Saudi Arabia usually make it to a World Cup. Why can’t it just be the 32 of the best teams.

And again why do nations that can’t produce a football team host a World Cup?

I’m all for opportunity. Anyway Qatar team will be unhiliated possibly 15-0 in every game in 4 years time.

That’s all I have to say on world cups.
OK, I know it wasn’t the World Cup that was won BUT I give you Greece & Denmark winning the Euros back in ‘04 & ‘92 respectively, it’s not always the “best” teams that win, take the FA Cup for example, Wimbledon, Southampton, Coventry, Wigan, underdogs DO win from time to time,

Take the 2002 World Cup for example, South Korea & Turkey both made it to the semis, both with a bit of luck could’ve been in the final.
jeez - SH, your post comes over as a white supremisist dogma. the world should be always looking to the underdog and should always be opening doors, rather than buliding bridges (unless of course those bridges connect meanifully). sorry, but that's how this reads...

i leave you with a martin luther king quote:

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
it won’t be long Jim before either an Asian or African country wins the World Cup, & for me it will be a beautiful, beautiful moment.
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Korattt wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:23 pm
SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:57 pm
Just wished all the worlds best teams where there and not geographically.

I still cannot comprehend the fact that the like of Saudi Arabia usually make it to a World Cup. Why can’t it just be the 32 of the best teams.

And again why do nations that can’t produce a football team host a World Cup?

I’m all for opportunity. Anyway Qatar team will be unhiliated possibly 15-0 in every game in 4 years time.

That’s all I have to say on world cups.
jimibt wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:19 pm
Korattt wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:06 pm


OK, I know it wasn’t the World Cup that was won BUT I give you Greece & Denmark winning the Euros back in ‘04 & ‘92 respectively, it’s not always the “best” teams that win, take the FA Cup for example, Wimbledon, Southampton, Coventry, Wigan, underdogs DO win from time to time,

Take the 2002 World Cup for example, South Korea & Turkey both made it to the semis, both with a bit of luck could’ve been in the final.
jeez - SH, your post comes over as a white supremisist dogma. the world should be always looking to the underdog and should always be opening doors, rather than buliding bridges (unless of course those bridges connect meanifully). sorry, but that's how this reads...

i leave you with a martin luther king quote:

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
it won’t be long Jim before either an Asian or African country wins the World Cup, & for me it will be a beautiful, beautiful moment.
you and i both...
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Halliday wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:39 pm
Korattt wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:06 pm
.. and the reason for England & Belgium playing in both 2nd strips is?
Section 24 of FIFA rule book... I think !!
First strips were still in the wash!
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SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:57 pm
Just wished all the worlds best teams where there and not geographically.

I still cannot comprehend the fact that the like of Saudi Arabia usually make it to a World Cup. Why can’t it just be the 32 of the best teams.

And again why do nations that can’t produce a football team host a World Cup?

I’m all for opportunity. Anyway Qatar team will be unhiliated possibly 15-0 in every game in 4 years time.

That’s all I have to say on world cups.
Whether the geographic distribution is completely fair will always be a topic for debate, and will clearly never be completely fair. With Europe having about 2.5 - 3 times the number of teams of other continents, despite that not being based in population, or competing nations numbers, claiming geography over level of the teams is a hard sell for me. It's a combination, and should be imo. If geography was the priority, Oceania would have a spot.

If a team is unable to get among the best 13 teams in Europe or the best 5 in South America, then there's imho very little legitimacy of being at a finals to find the WORLD's best team, instead of the 4th best from Asia, in this case Saudi Arabia, a nation which incidently qualified ahead of Australia who were a - slight - positive surprise.
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Kafkaesque wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:09 pm
SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:57 pm
Just wished all the worlds best teams where there and not geographically. Why can’t it just be the 32 of the best teams.
If a team is unable to get among the best 13 teams in Europe or the best 5 in South America, then there's imho very little legitimacy of being at a finals to find the WORLD's best team.
+1
You know what 6 or 8 are going to win anyway but you'd still exclude the involvement of entire continents and their people just so the 15th best from Europe could turn up and be knocked out? Yawn. Thank goodness you're not responsible for global development.
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