US Open 2013 - draw bias??

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I reckon Matteo Manassero will be a major winner sooner or later.
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Putting Tiger and Sergio in the same group would make good tv
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Taking some time to get used to these things:-

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Apparently different colours, or should I say colors, on the out and back nine.
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Woods +1 after naff tee shot on the first. Things are looking up!
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Weather did have an effect on the day but not as dramatic as I may have hoped for. Woods got off to an indifferent start, but the top of the leaderboard took advantage of that to establish a lead. The front of the book generally slipped, mainly thanks to Woods. But no real contenders came from outside the front pack, so it hasn't quite fulfilled it's potential, just yet.

Positive movers from day one, back to lay returns to £10 stakes: -

Adam Scott - 23 to 7.6 - £20.26
Phil Mickelson - 27 to 8 - £23.75
Luke Donald - 50 to 9.8 - £41.02
Rory McIlroy - 24 to 17.5 - £3.71
Webb Simpson - 75 to 22 - £24.09
Charl Schwartzel - 29 to 23 - £2.61
Lee Westwood - 42 to 25 - £6.8
Jason Day - 50 to 42 - £1.9
Rickie Fowler - 75 to 50 - £5
Ernie Els - 140 to 55 - £15.45
Nicolas Colsaerts - 250 to 55 - £35.45
Bubba Watson - 95 to 85 - £1.18
Tim Clark - 120 to 85 - £4.12
Carl Pettersson - 360 to 90 - £30
Ian Poulter - 130 to 110 - £1.82
Kyle Stanley - 150 to 110 - £3.64
Michael Thompson - 200 to 110 - £8.18
K.J. Choi - 180 to 140 - £2.86
Branden Grace - 340 to 160 - £11.25
John Senden - 370 to 160 - £13.13
Francesco Molinari - 180 to 150 - £2
Charley Hoffman - 260 to 230 - £1.3
George Coetzee - 350 to 250 - £4
Jerry Kelly - 460 to 220 - £10.91
Mathew Goggin - 1000 to 280 - £25.71
Sang-Moon Bae - 430 to 360 - £1.94
Jamie Donaldson - 700 to 370 - £8.92
Hideki Matsuyama - 520 to 420 - £2.38
Peter Hedblom - 1000 to 480 - £10.83
Geoff Ogilvy - 500 to 480 - £0.42
Luke Guthrie - 640 to 600 - £0.67
Eddie Pepperell - 880 to 780 - £1.28
Alistair Presnell - 1000 to 800 - £2.5
Estanislao Goya - 1000 to 860 - £1.63

Negatives: -

Tiger Woods - 6.8 to 15.5 - £-5.61
Justin Rose - 29 to 32 - £-0.94
Dustin Johnson - 48 to 50 - £-0.4
Graeme McDowell - 28 to 60 - £-5.33
Matt Kuchar - 24 to 100 - £-7.6
Sergio Garcia - 42 to 110 - £-6.18
Scott Stallings - 100 to 110 - £-0.91
Hunter Mahan - 80 to 120 - £-3.33
Jim Furyk - 60 to 130 - £-5.38
Bo Van Pelt - 120 to 130 - £-0.77
Billy Horschel - 100 to 210 - £-5.24
Brandt Snedeker - 38 to 190 - £-8
Kevin Chappell - 130 to 200 - £-3.5
Kevin Streelman - 160 to 200 - £-2
Zach Johnson - 120 to 220 - £-4.55
Marc Leishman - 190 to 290 - £-3.45
Russell Henley - 120 to 290 - £-5.86
Henrik Stenson - 65 to 330 - £-8.03
Jordan Spieth - 270 to 340 - £-2.06
Jason Dufner - 65 to 350 - £-8.14
Martin Kaymer - 130 to 370 - £-6.49
Padraig Harrington - 140 to 340 - £-5.88
Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano - 360 to 480 - £-2.5
Fredrik Jacobson - 130 to 380 - £-6.58
Scott Piercy - 210 to 390 - £-4.62
Matteo Manassero - 75 to 510 - £-8.53
Nick Watney - 150 to 500 - £-7
Stewart Cink - 390 to 530 - £-2.64
Josh Teater - 470 to 560 - £-1.61
Louis Oosthuizen - 65 to 290 - £-7.76
D.A. Points - 420 to 710 - £-4.08
David Toms - 430 to 810 - £-4.69
Thorbjorn Olesen - 190 to 830 - £-7.71
Shawn Stefani - 790 to 850 - £-0.71
Ryan Palmer - 100 to 900 - £-8.89
Peter Hanson - 190 to 900 - £-7.89
Boo Weekley - 130 to 930 - £-8.6
Marcel Siem - 320 to 930 - £-6.56
Nicholas Thompson - 810 to 1000 - £-1.9
Keegan Bradley - 50 to 770 - £-9.35
Bill Haas - 80 to 1000 - £-9.2
Aaron Baddeley - 460 to 1000 - £-5.4
Martin Laird - 220 to 1000 - £-7.8
Ryan Moore - 110 to 1000 - £-8.9
Y.E. Yang - 560 to 1000 - £-4.4
Paul Casey - 480 to 1000 - £-5.2
Robert Karlsson - 350 to 1000 - £-6.5
Lucas Glover - 330 to 1000 - £-6.7
Robert Garrigus - 240 to 1000 - £-7.6
John Peterson - 600 to 1000 - £-4
Paul Lawrie - 620 to 660 - £-0.61
Thongchai Jaidee - 420 to 690 - £-3.91
Simon Khan - 400 to 1000 - £-6
Jaco Van Zyl - 630 to 1000 - £-3.7
Marcus Fraser - 520 to 1000 - £-4.8
David Howell - 890 to 1000 - £-1.1
David Hearn - 720 to 1000 - £-2.8
David Lingmerth - 430 to 1000 - £-5.7
Brandt Jobe - 730 to 1000 - £-2.7
Ted Potter Jr. - 600 to 1000 - £-4
Rory Sabbatini - 390 to 1000 - £-6.1
Justin Hicks - 810 to 1000 - £-1.9
Douglas LaBelle - 980 to 1000 - £-0.2
Morgan Hoffmann - 620 to 1000 - £-3.8
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Top returns

Luke Donald - 50 to 9.8 - £41.02
Nicolas Colsaerts - 250 to 55 - £35.45
Carl Pettersson - 360 to 90 - £30
Mathew Goggin - 1000 to 280 - £25.71
Webb Simpson - 75 to 22 - £24.09
Phil Mickelson - 27 to 8 - £23.75
Adam Scott - 23 to 7.6 - £20.26
Ernie Els - 140 to 55 - £15.45
John Senden - 370 to 160 - £13.13
Branden Grace - 340 to 160 - £11.25
Jerry Kelly - 460 to 220 - £10.91
Peter Hedblom - 1000 to 480 - £10.83
Jamie Donaldson - 700 to 370 - £8.92
Michael Thompson - 200 to 110 - £8.18
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Top movers to the cut, 68 players still have to finish around two.

Postives: -

Phil Mickelson - 27 to 6 - £35
Luke Donald - 50 to 9.6 - £42.08
Justin Rose - 29 to 8.8 - £22.95
Billy Horschel - 100 to 12 - £73.33
Steve Stricker - 48 to 13 - £26.92
Rory McIlroy - 24 to 20 - £2
Ian Poulter - 130 to 23 - £46.52
Nicolas Colsaerts - 250 to 29 - £76.21
Charl Schwartzel - 29 to 27 - £0.74
Hunter Mahan - 80 to 40 - £10
Henrik Stenson - 65 to 34 - £9.12
John Senden - 370 to 60 - £51.67
Ernie Els - 140 to 60 - £13.33
Charley Hoffman - 260 to 75 - £24.67
Jerry Kelly - 460 to 130 - £25.38
Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano - 360 to 130 - £17.69
Mathew Goggin - 1000 to 210 - £37.62
George Coetzee - 350 to 220 - £5.91
Geoff Ogilvy - 500 to 240 - £10.83
Cheng Tsung Pan - 1000 to 210 - £37.62
Matt Bettencourt - 1000 to 740 - £3.51
Russell Knox - 1000 to 980 - £0.2

Negative movers: -

Tiger Woods - 6.8 to 8.8 - £-2.27
Jason Day - 50 to 60 - £-1.67
Jason Dufner - 65 to 180 - £-6.39
Bo Van Pelt - 120 to 150 - £-2
Rickie Fowler - 75 to 230 - £-6.74
Scott Stallings - 100 to 290 - £-6.55
Adam Scott - 23 to 230 - £-9
John Huh - 200 to 400 - £-5
Matt Kuchar - 24 to 500 - £-9.52
Sergio Garcia - 42 to 550 - £-9.24
Marcel Siem - 320 to 500 - £-3.6
Webb Simpson - 75 to 500 - £-8.5
Robert Karlsson - 350 to 500 - £-3
Kyle Stanley - 150 to 510 - £-7.06
Shawn Stefani - 790 to 860 - £-0.81
Tim Clark - 120 to 1000 - £-8.8
Martin Laird - 220 to 800 - £-7.25
Lee Westwood - 42 to 410 - £-8.98
K.J. Choi - 180 to 540 - £-6.67
Paul Casey - 480 to 700 - £-3.14
Bill Haas - 80 to 1000 - £-9.2
Bubba Watson - 95 to 870 - £-8.91
David Lingmerth - 430 to 920 - £-5.33
Stewart Cink - 390 to 1000 - £-6.1
Matteo Manassero - 75 to 1000 - £-9.25
Graeme McDowell - 28 to 1000 - £-9.72
Dustin Johnson - 48 to 1000 - £-9.52
Jim Furyk - 60 to 1000 - £-9.4
Keegan Bradley - 50 to 1000 - £-9.5
Louis Oosthuizen - 65 to 1000 - £-9.35
Martin Kaymer - 130 to 1000 - £-8.7
Brandt Snedeker - 38 to 1000 - £-9.62
Nick Watney - 150 to 1000 - £-8.5
Peter Hanson - 190 to 1000 - £-8.1
Zach Johnson - 120 to 1000 - £-8.8
Aaron Baddeley - 460 to 1000 - £-5.4
Francesco Molinari - 180 to 1000 - £-8.2
Fredrik Jacobson - 130 to 1000 - £-8.7
Ryan Moore - 110 to 1000 - £-8.9
Branden Grace - 340 to 1000 - £-6.6
Carl Pettersson - 360 to 1000 - £-6.4
David Toms - 430 to 1000 - £-5.7
Sang-Moon Bae - 430 to 1000 - £-5.7
Thorbjorn Olesen - 190 to 1000 - £-8.1
Y.E. Yang - 560 to 1000 - £-4.4
Angel Cabrera - 160 to 1000 - £-8.4
D.A. Points - 420 to 1000 - £-5.8
Lucas Glover - 330 to 1000 - £-6.7
Michael Thompson - 200 to 1000 - £-8
Robert Garrigus - 240 to 1000 - £-7.6
Scott Piercy - 210 to 1000 - £-7.9
Kevin Chappell - 130 to 1000 - £-8.7
John Peterson - 600 to 1000 - £-4
Kevin Streelman - 160 to 1000 - £-8.4
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Ok so it is not the open but a good read on draw bias etc.

http://golf.about.com/od/majorchampions ... rmined.htm
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Luke Donald just got five bogeys in six holes, mare.
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Justin Rose in real contention, going to be a late night.
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He's done it, not everyday somebody who went to the same.school as your kids wins a major!
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Robert Mays, Odiham?

I worked with someone from Hartley Wintney a number of years back, they went there as a kid too

Brilliant win for Rose though
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It was a great win. I cannot stay awake that late due to recent health issues so I recorded it and watched it this morning. I started at 07:00 and he's just won it!!

One thing I would like to add. If Justin hadn't won then Phil Mickelson was worthy of the title. That man is a true gentleman and great professional. I think it is 6 times in the runner up spot for Phil and at 43 his chances are diminishing. His behaviour and sportsmanship are exemplary at all times. I think back to his singles match in the 2012 Ryder Cup against none other than Justin Rose where he applauded Justin on the 17th hole after he holed a monster putt.

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JollyGreen wrote:It was a great win. I cannot stay awake that late due to recent health issues so I recorded it and watched it this morning. I started at 07:00 and he's just won it!!
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...If you had told me Jolly, I've have told you the winner and you could have out a bet on the winner!..

great win and I enjoyed watching it!
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