UK General Election **June 8th**

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SeaHorseRacing
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I honestly believe that 95% of the public are unaware of this or there future. We all know how bad the IRA events were... have you seen the population in Ireland in realtion to Eng/Wal/Sco.

We are in for some seriously terrible times. Terroist will get worse and worse. Far right will get bigger and bigger... Boom.

Then we have a cival war. I dont want to scare people but we need to wake up.

Your right about the far right... but lets put into stats... weve had Islamic terrorist lurking in the UK for 20 years.. these ticking time bombs are now starting to go... there are currently about 30,000 of them. What happens when the UKs views get more and more far right... we could have mayb 5 million british thinking in a similar mindset to the real far right in this country.

Just a ticking time bomb.
cybernet69

SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:31 am
I honestly believe that 95% of the public are unaware of this or there future. We all know how bad the IRA events were... have you seen the population in Ireland in realtion to Eng/Wal/Sco.

We are in for some seriously terrible times. Terroist will get worse and worse. Far right will get bigger and bigger... Boom.

Then we have a cival war. I dont want to scare people but we need to wake up.

Your right about the far right... but lets put into stats... weve had Islamic terrorist lurking in the UK for 20 years.. these ticking time bombs are now starting to go... there are currently about 30,000 of them. What happens when the UKs views get more and more far right... we could have mayb 5 million british thinking in a similar mindset to the real far right in this country.

Just a ticking time bomb.
Correct.

I had to watch the documentary 3 times because I couldn't believe it.

Then I saw this and started to wonder. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-22970716

The only time the group made a reference to muslims on camera was in relation to incidents around a mosque in Woking, Surrey.

I don think its a total secret, the groups name is "Red Dragon", no reference to Hannibal, they operate in UK, NI, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Strange thing is, aren't they part of the British Commonwealth ?
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I am not sure at all...

What I do know is until either royalty or the PM become a victim of terrorism or a serious catastrophic event happens that result in 1,000s of causalities in one event then someone like the Queen will come and and state the truth and will order what needs to be done.

The government, the world and the British people will do anything to protect the monarchy and its history. However, normal British history of every day people doesnt matter anymore when it should.

The day it happens is the day it will change immediately.
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Quite fascinating to see Nigel Farage on Newsnight earlier, he appeared to be conceding that Brexit is heading towards a Norwegian style deal. This would still involve free movement of people.
cybernet69

SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:05 am
I am not sure at all...

What I do know is until either royalty or the PM become a victim of terrorism or a serious catastrophic event happens that result in 1,000s of causalities in one event then someone like the Queen will come and and state the truth and will order what needs to be done.

The government, the world and the British people will do anything to protect the monarchy and its history. However, normal British history of every day people doesnt matter anymore when it should.

The day it happens is the day it will change immediately.
I hate to say it, having served my country in NI and the first gulf war but the Queen and Government are not too bothered what happens to the tax paying public. They only become interested when it could harm them financially or cause public disorder. During my time wearing the uniform i have seen the official documents which outline what would happen before, during and after a Nuclear War. 90% of the public would be left to their own devices, only a select few, Head of State, Government, 30% of the Armed Forces have designated places to go which in theory would be safe.

Make of that what you will and then ask yourself, does your country actual care.

Slightly different subject, most know about Sgt Blackman executing a wounded Taliban fighter who previously had bee firing an AK47 at him and his unit. He was seriously injured by an Apache Helicopter 20mm cannon. What the public doesn't know and the Army, Police, Judge and politicians tried to cover up, in my view was appalling.

"On a Friday evening, the Police stopped a car here in the UK. A serving soldier was arrested for driving while being over the limit on drink and/or drugs. The Police seized a laptop within his car on the back seat. On that laptop was pictures of children being forced to have sex. Also, they found the headcam footage of Sgt Blackman shooting an injured Taliban fighter. The CPS/Police offered the soldier a deal to testify against Sgt Blackman in return for not prosecuting him for having the other material on his laptop. That soldier has since left the Army due to shall we say some rather nasty incidents against him and his family."

Ofcourse what Sgt Blackman did was wrong under international law and should have been punished. But, a potential child molester went free. Which one would the public have prosecuted, had they known ?
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LeTiss wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:56 pm
I blame our education system for that - it is riddled with teachers who are scumbags, and are only interested in brainwashing kids with lefty bullshit.

These kids seem to think that Communism is a good thing, and anybody right of centre is a fascist - that's purely because of the terrible state of our education system. By the time those students are working for a living, and are stuck with a mortgage and an unhappy marriage, they will realise left-wing politics is dangerous and full of lies (disguised as hope)
Not forgetting the 20,000 pounds debt they'll have for a degree in Gender Studies from Wimbledon Polytechnic. The education system is the medieval church of our times, rinsing common people dry for an indoctrination in (often) useless drivel.
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SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:37 pm


I'll say it first... it will be within 5 years until we have white british non religious or christian bombers against muslims and islam here in the UK.

Why white?
Would it be surprising if it was an Asian or black British non religious person?
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All the more reason to back Gold, or one of the arms suppliers, lockheed martin etc.
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Unbelievable to think what's happened in politics over the last 24 months, it certainly illustrates why we should all participate in our democracy. It isn't actually just about elections, there's so much more to it than that. I think Peter's blogs are great, but I thought the 'none of the above' stance has never been more irrelevant. There's so many issues at stake at the moment, so many reasons to vote.

It's going to be interesting to see how Murdoch and Dacre now try to attack Corbyn. The big mistake they are making is treating the public like fools - in such an obvious way.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SeuH7FG9mSA
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I've been really impressed with Emmanuel Macron. May move to France :)
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Euler wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:35 am
I've been really impressed with Emmanuel Macron. May move to France :)
:lol:

We agree on many things Peter, but our politics couldn't be more different my old mate
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Euler wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:35 am
I've been really impressed with Emmanuel Macron. May move to France :)
At first I also thought he would be the man to turn things around there. Unfortunately the week after he was instated he immediately issued measures to protect the french car making industry even further. On top of that he wants to make parts of the martial law permanent. The french are being manipulated into giving up their essential freedoms.
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Haven't been following it that closely. He just seemed to not be afraid to speak his mind in front of other leaders. Maybe I won't be moving to France!
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That time when he crushed trumps hand was hilarious though :D
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What's the political situation in the Netherlands? I have a friend who has relocated from California to Amsterdam for six months.
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