Lokos pretty good
as someone learning to trade tennis and play with automation ect I am not sure if this will make any difference to me whatsoever but I am happy to be wrong..
Could be I misunderstood it and will be a good aid on top of automation..
New version of Bet Angel v1.49.0
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spoonster912
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Just had a quick butchers this morning at the tutorial videos (loving the servant cosplay Peter lol!)..
Looking really good guys. Seems as though a great deal of work has gone into it.
I have dabbled with automation in the past (with mixed success) but i've still a lot to learn, and hopefully once I get my head around the functionality of it, creating servants will be easier and more effective than creating bots, which will make my life easier in the long run and hopefully improve my currently tiny edges.
And as others have mentioned, if we all work together to help one another out on this, us BA users will hopefully gain a collective edge over other non BA users.
Looking forward to getting my teeth into it later in readiness for the champions league games tonight!
Looking really good guys. Seems as though a great deal of work has gone into it.
I have dabbled with automation in the past (with mixed success) but i've still a lot to learn, and hopefully once I get my head around the functionality of it, creating servants will be easier and more effective than creating bots, which will make my life easier in the long run and hopefully improve my currently tiny edges.
And as others have mentioned, if we all work together to help one another out on this, us BA users will hopefully gain a collective edge over other non BA users.
Looking forward to getting my teeth into it later in readiness for the champions league games tonight!
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ricardodeano
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Is it just me who has had this stuck in their heads since the new release?
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powlesy2000
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same happens to me too. if i right click on the icon and then left click somewhere else it goes but its rather irritating to have to do it each time the mouse pointer moves over the icon. Which is usually just after ive cleared it and move the mouse back to the ladders!
Help please...servant misbehaving.
I start the "Grab a Green" rules file on a football market, place a bet, Bell Boy turns green and all seems good. I then switch to another market and when I switch back to the original market the Bell Boy has turned red. What blindingly obvious thing am I missing please?
I start the "Grab a Green" rules file on a football market, place a bet, Bell Boy turns green and all seems good. I then switch to another market and when I switch back to the original market the Bell Boy has turned red. What blindingly obvious thing am I missing please?
Servants are designed to only be used on the market on screen, as soon as you change markets they will stop automatically so they cant ever trigger without your knowledgeTeditu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:44 amHelp please...servant misbehaving.
I start the "Grab a Green" rules file on a football market, place a bet, Bell Boy turns green and all seems good. I then switch to another market and when I switch back to the original market the Bell Boy has turned red. What blindingly obvious thing am I missing please?
If you want it to be started automatically when you open a market it has to be set as a safety servant, see page below
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/saf ... 3D&mw=MzIw
You'd be able to do that already using Signals. Have one rule set a named signal to a value and have the second rule use the Signal Changed condition with the required number of seconds delay.
You're correct in thinking your other requests would require further enhancement to Automation, but I've noted them down for discussion.
OK - we'll try to recreate and fix that. The tooltip is supposed to go away on it's own when the mouse pointer leaves the icon. Which version of Windows are you using (we'll use the same to try to recreate)?powlesy2000 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:00 amsame happens to me too. if i right click on the icon and then left click somewhere else it goes but its rather irritating to have to do it each time the mouse pointer moves over the icon. Which is usually just after ive cleared it and move the mouse back to the ladders!
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ShaunWhite
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It's a bit disappointing that there's still no way to keep a stop loss or safety bot running on markets you're not viewing without using guardian.
The whole point of a stop is to protect you while you're away from the market. If it only works while I'm looking at it myself anyway then I can't see how it helps.
If I take an early position on a market I'm unprotected if I switch to trade elsewhere. And now I can't even check that market without switching off the servants on my current market.
If my servant stops doing what he's been told to do when I go to do something else, he'd be getting his P45. These aren't really servants, it's more like having a Zafod Beeblebrox style extra head.
The whole point of a stop is to protect you while you're away from the market. If it only works while I'm looking at it myself anyway then I can't see how it helps.
If I take an early position on a market I'm unprotected if I switch to trade elsewhere. And now I can't even check that market without switching off the servants on my current market.
If my servant stops doing what he's been told to do when I go to do something else, he'd be getting his P45. These aren't really servants, it's more like having a Zafod Beeblebrox style extra head.
The purpose of servants is to assist your manual trading, by handling all the tedious work and managing your entry exit positions etc, there would be little point if they just did what's already possible in guardian automation for years ie watching and triggering on background markets is what guardian was designed and intended for.
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ShaunWhite
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I see your point, and Guardian is ok for generic situations, but the power of Servants lies in context, ad hoc invokation and a quick way to assign multiple bots to a selection without manually combining rules.Dallas wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:29 pmThe purpose of servants is to assist your manual trading, by handling all the tedious work and managing your entry exit positions etc, there would be little point if they just did what's already possible in guardian automation for years ie watching and triggering on background markets is what guardian was designed and intended for.
The option to 'keep or clear on market switch' would have been really powerful.
Even if background triggers were supported apart from the added issue of risk there would also be the refresh frequency of the prices when the market loses visibility which will need to be gotten from somewhere, which would mean having to add them to guardian before switching, but the Restricted Refresh might have been switched on for regular automation so the market may still not update correctly.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:43 pmI see your point, and Guardian is ok for generic situations, but the power of Servants lies in context, ad hoc invokation and a quick way to assign multiple bots to a selection without manually combining rules.Dallas wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:29 pmThe purpose of servants is to assist your manual trading, by handling all the tedious work and managing your entry exit positions etc, there would be little point if they just did what's already possible in guardian automation for years ie watching and triggering on background markets is what guardian was designed and intended for.
The option to 'keep or clear on market switch' would have been really powerful.
Users would have to take into account so many things when using them the far safer option is to only allow them on the current active screen as an aid for manual traders and let guardian continue to monitor any background markets and do the job of full automation
LOL I was replying with pretty much the same response as Dallas but he beat me to it.
The market price refresh to feed the Servant would be a signifcant issue so we'd have to write a lot of protection into the code to ensure the user wasn't digging themselves and the Servant a big hole to fall in.
It's something we can look into it for a future version if there's enough demand; It's not without risk and not a quick change, but we'll judge it based on demand.
Servants have been designed to help the manual trader while the market is open in front of them and that's how we'll be promoting their usage. We don't want to get distracted from that for the time being.
The market price refresh to feed the Servant would be a signifcant issue so we'd have to write a lot of protection into the code to ensure the user wasn't digging themselves and the Servant a big hole to fall in.
It's something we can look into it for a future version if there's enough demand; It's not without risk and not a quick change, but we'll judge it based on demand.
Servants have been designed to help the manual trader while the market is open in front of them and that's how we'll be promoting their usage. We don't want to get distracted from that for the time being.
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ShaunWhite
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Fair enough Dallas (& BA), cheers for the reply. Bit of a classic case of never had it before, but now I have I want it with knobs on.
Jeez you're going to be a busy man Dallas with the added burden of Servants, I hope PW's given you a damn good pay rise, i think he can afford it. Support would certainly be shafted if you decided to focus on your trading rather than being everybody's servant. Your xmas bonus should have at least 4 zeros ....or 4 wheels
Jeez you're going to be a busy man Dallas with the added burden of Servants, I hope PW's given you a damn good pay rise, i think he can afford it. Support would certainly be shafted if you decided to focus on your trading rather than being everybody's servant. Your xmas bonus should have at least 4 zeros ....or 4 wheels