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rcsportbet
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Hello again

My automation its not working well,
I do not understand what is wrong!
After 1 goal he made a greened at 16:31:31;
At 16:34:32, he gave the goal 1 signal.
Should only be greened after goal 2, but made greened with the close rule if you are losing -5 €.
Can you help me?

17/10/2017 16:29:01: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
17/10/2017 16:29:01: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
17/10/2017 16:29:22: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
17/10/2017 16:29:28: [G_Auto] : € 10.00 Back bet placed on Mais de 2,5 golos at 1.62. Fully matched at 1.62. Ref: 10000
17/10/2017 16:31:31: [G_Auto] : Greened up Mais de 2,5 golos by Laying 0.29 at 55
17/10/2017 16:34:22: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: goal = 1
17/10/2017 16:36:41: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: goal = 2
17/10/2017 16:36:46: [G_Auto] : Greened up Mais de 2,5 golos by Laying 11.98 at 1.31
17/10/2017 16:39:26: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
RC Over 2.5 Game Rule.baf
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Dallas
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It looks like you may of used it on an illquid market with large gaps between the price causing premature signals to be set as odds get traded high then low then high again.

The trigger ar 16:31:31 is likely your 50% loss green up as there appears to little money available on this selection so its triggered believing the odds have drifted right out
The up and down traded price has then caused the two goal signals leading to your green after 2 goal green up to trigger.

If you stick to liquid markets with plenty of money available then it should work fine how you have it set up
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rcsportbet
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Thank you again

As I was just testing, I chose a game without seeing if it had liquidity.
I'll try another game again.
Thank you
markfinn
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Hi all- very new to this and knowledge is zero

I don’t know if this possible – just purchased the full system – looked around “I think”! Guardian is the answer to question but need some help
Can I automate the staggered parts of this process
My intial -Process
I always dutch - 2 horses or more in the same race – rate them and find my acceptable odds and don’t go under so - eg
A – 4.5 / 1
B – 5 / 1
C – 8/ 1
That’s my Main Bet and leave alone –

Then traditionally I would leave some staggered bets in running –

What I would like to automate - For Flat and WA only
0.5 odds progressions until double the odds and then 2 odds step progressions
Horse A in running - 5 -5.5 – 6 -6.5 – 7 7.5 – 8.5 – 9- 11- 13 -15 – 17 – 19 – 21 – 23 – 24
Horse B in running - 5 – 5.5 – 6– 6.5 - etc
The above staggered bet is time consuming and I have to be there live doing it – which for me is a problem –

Start 00.05 seconds from the off and generally timed to cancel all out at the 2f post
I have been trying to set this via Bet Angel Guardian Automation
Trying but cannot get two different set of rules i.e one per horse in same race ?
Read the blog and watched the vids but must be missing something
Please can someone help
markfinn
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Has any one any advice on my post - or is a case of opening individual multiple Guardian screens - can this even be done live I have tried un live it looks though it should work
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You will need to use numerous back bet rules within the same file so once you have the first one done click the icon of two green arrows to duplicate it then go in and amend the odds and just keep repeating this until you have a rule for all the back bets you want.

Its sounds a bit of a bizarre strategy so i would test in practice mode untill you have it set up correctly then start with min stakes
markfinn
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Hi Dallas - thanks for the reply earlier - I had not seen that ( looked at notifications but not flagged)

I can find a lot about this now and have found loads of various info post's - but still cannot see how to operate this on two selection's using different rules in same market or race

I have tested it and - it does what I want very well on one selection - how ever I want to play up any potential greater odds about more than one

sorry - but to be clear I am not trying to back to equal profit on each selection so require different odds on each - wondering if it is better to use the % over rule
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rcsportbet
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Hi again,

My horse rule is not working wright, give me this message: [G_Auto] : € 2.50 Lay bet placed on Infiniti at 80. Fully matched at 42.
What do I have to do, for the lay bet only matched at the price of 80, and not matche below?
Thank you
Lay horse Over Odd 80.baf
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rcsportbet wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:37 pm
Hi again,

My horse rule is not working wright, give me this message: [G_Auto] : € 2.50 Lay bet placed on Infiniti at 80. Fully matched at 42.
What do I have to do, for the lay bet only matched at the price of 80, and not matche below?
Thank you

Lay horse Over Odd 80.baf
Betfair will always match bets at the best possible price, once a lay bet is triggered if the odds drop and you are lucky enough to get matched at lower odds its a bonus because your loss will be less if it goes onto win.
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rcsportbet
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Hello
But is there any way to set up so that the bet is only filled at odd 80?
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rcsportbet wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:33 am
Hello
But is there any way to set up so that the bet is only filled at odd 80?
Yes but it doesn't require the need for signals, a back or lay bet can be placed at these odds as normal if the current back odds are lower or lay odds are higher.
If not see this thread
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11621
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Niko
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Quick confirmation if possible! Say I have an automation that has various conditions set and a signal called WoM to fire on any selection if the conditions are met. I also have a clear the signal WoM rule if the conditions are no longer met. The rule triggers on say 4 runners.

Does betangel know which signal of each runner to cancel if say two runners fall outside of the conditions set even though they all triggered the same WoM rule?

Or do I need to replicate the rule for all the various runners?
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Dallas
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Niko wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:14 pm
Quick confirmation if possible! Say I have an automation that has various conditions set and a signal called WoM to fire on any selection if the conditions are met. I also have a clear the signal WoM rule if the conditions are no longer met. The rule triggers on say 4 runners.

Does betangel know which signal of each runner to cancel if say two runners fall outside of the conditions set even though they all triggered the same WoM rule?

Or do I need to replicate the rule for all the various runners?
The same 'clear signal' will clear the signal of the 2nd runner as soon as its rearmed
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if i had a situation where i am trying to green up for a small profit if a bet has been in the market for lets say 20 seconds
and the condition is green all above 0. lets then say this is set to trigger 125 times.
so my question is this.
how do i stop the triggers and reset so that it is ready the next time it is needed?
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MemphisFlash wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:23 pm
if i had a situation where i am trying to green up for a small profit if a bet has been in the market for lets say 20 seconds
and the condition is green all above 0. lets then say this is set to trigger 125 times.
so my question is this.
how do i stop the triggers and reset so that it is ready the next time it is needed?
You have a few options depending on your over all strategy;

1, use separate green up rules so a different one triggers as you open new trades and profit increases, similar to how this 'Grab a Green' servant works
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=15197
2, on your back/lay bets set a signal, then on your green up rule use the 'Signal changed' condition and set the time after your back lay you want it to trigger, you could also add in a 'unmatched bet time condition'
Between thos two conditions you will be able to control a single green up rule
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