Hi,
Personally, I prefer databases to spreadsheets.
Is it possible to automate Betangel with something like Macro-scheduler?
I am really good with it.
For example, I made a William Hill virtual races bot that OCRs the results from the video and saves them to a database.
Turns out virtual gambling is a bit dodgy so thats why I am here now instead.
How would I fetch results data? It uses VBA.
Also, could I command BEtangel directly with VPA.
IE, run the program with CLI and send commands to it?
Sorry for the convoluted post but I would, of course, accept just being pointed to the right help page or something.
External Automation without spreadsheets
- ShaunWhite
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Gary, is this a wind-up or are you being serious ?
There's not much point in using spreadsheets or databases to gamble until you understand the very basics of gambling/trading.
Virtual racing is a form of gambling where the computer, commissioned by the bookie, decides whether or not you win. It's not possible to beat the bookie on this one, because they can decide, not only the odds, but the actual chances of a horse winning. They can't do that with real racing!
Mostly, I was just interested in tracking the difference in it and real-life sports.
Just happens that I made several thousand but its hard work and my cash-flow was all over the place.
There are patterns. Mostly if something happens in a certain period its like to correct itself.
You are right in that it is their house so their rules. Although, its global at least so not as gamey as doing online Roulette or Blackjack.
I like making bots. It's what I do for a living.
Not advertising, I don't know where to start with making bots for this yet.
Apart from the Betangel interface of course and that is already powerful. So I am looking forward to what I can build from it all.
Just happens that I made several thousand but its hard work and my cash-flow was all over the place.
There are patterns. Mostly if something happens in a certain period its like to correct itself.
You are right in that it is their house so their rules. Although, its global at least so not as gamey as doing online Roulette or Blackjack.
I like making bots. It's what I do for a living.
Not advertising, I don't know where to start with making bots for this yet.
Apart from the Betangel interface of course and that is already powerful. So I am looking forward to what I can build from it all.
Sounds like you are describing mean reversion which doesn’t really work long term on truely random events. I believe all random number generators on virtual sports have to be audited, can anyone confirm?GaryCook wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:14 pmMostly, I was just interested in tracking the difference in it and real-life sports.
Just happens that I made several thousand but its hard work and my cash-flow was all over the place.
There are patterns. Mostly if something happens in a certain period its like to correct itself.
You are right in that it is their house so their rules. Although, its global at least so not as gamey as doing online Roulette or Blackjack.
I like making bots. It's what I do for a living.
Not advertising, I don't know where to start with making bots for this yet.
Apart from the Betangel interface of course and that is already powerful. So I am looking forward to what I can build from it all.
If you can program just access the API directly, BA is only a bloat if you don’t really need it.
They are but what is legal or not is a bit lose to say the least.LinusP wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:59 amSounds like you are describing mean reversion which doesn’t really work long term on truly random events. I believe all random number generators on virtual sports have to be audited, can anyone confirm?GaryCook wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:14 pmMostly, I was just interested in tracking the difference in it and real-life sports.
Just happens that I made several thousand but its hard work and my cash-flow was all over the place.
There are patterns. Mostly if something happens in a certain period its like to correct itself.
You are right in that it is their house so their rules. Although, its global at least so not as gamey as doing online Roulette or Blackjack.
I like making bots. It's what I do for a living.
Not advertising, I don't know where to start with making bots for this yet.
Apart from the Betangel interface of course and that is already powerful. So I am looking forward to what I can build from it all.
If you can program just access the API directly, BA is only a bloat if you don’t really need it.
For example, I noticed a pattern with online Roulette.
I don't have enough data to say for sure but the amount you bet seems to influence the outcome.
For example if you put the 5p units or the 25p.
Things I tried at lower stakes didnt work with higher stakes but worked again with lower when I went back down.
Also I think what they consider cheating is a bit loose.
For example, I think they can give you a small win in order to take a big win from you later.
I dont have tonnes of stats but I did have the results of several thousand.
Similar to virtual greyhounds.
Had some success with virtual sports and online gambling but I was partly just lucky and no I dont expect that luck to continue into the distant future.
So, if we were betting on the same game/race, and you were betting with small stakes and I was betting with large stakes, we would see different outcomes to the game/race?
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You don't necessarily need to use BetAngel if you have the skills to build a bot that interacts directly with the Betfair API.GaryCook wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:56 amThanks for that.PeterLe wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:09 amCheck this out Gary
https://developer.betfair.com/exchange-api/
Good luck
Good idea.
Maybe I can use my own code from scratch in conjunction with BetAngel via the Betfair API.
- ShaunWhite
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If you need support then you should use tech support, not the user forum.
The outcome of all virtual games is auditted as being random, just like online poker. The operator has no control over the outcome. The 'bookie' does NOT decide who wins.
On a purely logical level, people with huge resources and intellect have studied this field (it would be nieive to think they hadn't) if there was an 'edge' then the providers of virtual betting would be bankrupt. You're chasing rainbows.
Logical fallacy. Of course, they can control the outcome. They create the outcome. They or partners wrote the code.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:59 pmIf you need support then you should use tech support, not the user forum.
The outcome of all virtual games is auditted as being random, just like online poker. The operator has no control over the outcome. The 'bookie' does NOT decide who wins.
On a purely logical level, people with huge resources and intellect have studied this field (it would be nieive to think they hadn't) if there was an 'edge' then the providers of virtual betting would be bankrupt. You're chasing rainbows.
I have made tens of thousands on virtual sports.
Its not completely random. You obviously dont know what you are talking about.
Not sure why you are getting your knickers in a twist, my boy.
I never condoned somebody use it as a get rich scheme. Just because its made me a lot of money it won't for everybody or even anybody else maybe.