Coronavirus - A pale horse,4 men and ....beer

[spreadbetting]

Teaching unions didn't want their members to go back to work (the members probably fancied another 6 months off on full pay). It's a good job the public sector isn't responsible for our food supplies - we'd have starved to death.

Lol, you're trying to make out all those private sector workers were over the moon to be maintaining the food supply, all on their minimum wage pay. I'm sure the shareholders were more than happy but imagine the staff were ruing the day they stopped paying their union subs unlike the teachers.

[Derek27]

If nine responsible people and one irresponsible person sail across the ocean with a modest food supply, the food larder needs to be under lock and key - you can't leave it to personal responsibility.

Which responsible person do you trust with the key & how do you know that your choice of person isn't secretly irresponsible. We cant lock up society Derek, there are people who do irresponsible things all the time but we don't lock everyone up because of it.

You have three keys with locks that have to be opened simultaneously.

What I'm basically saying is that if it takes a small minority to destroy the efforts of the majority and you know it's going to happen you have to do something to try to stop or deter them.

[jamesg46]

If nine responsible people and one irresponsible person sail across the ocean with a modest food supply, the food larder needs to be under lock and key - you can't leave it to personal responsibility.

Which responsible person do you trust with the key & how do you know that your choice of person isn't secretly irresponsible. We cant lock up society Derek, there are people who do irresponsible things all the time but we don't lock everyone up because of it.

You have three keys with locks that have to be opened simultaneously.

What I'm basically saying is that if it takes a small minority to destroy the efforts of the majority and you know it's going to happen you have to do something to try to stop or deter them.

I see your point, although its debatable depending on which scientists we listen to whether or not we could be doing more harm than good with lockdowns. I'm not a scientist though so its probably best I don't debate it with anyone.

Cant believe I've ended up getting back into this thread. That's twice I've broken my pledge of no covid thread

[superfrank]

Teaching unions didn't want their members to go back to work (the members probably fancied another 6 months off on full pay). It's a good job the public sector isn't responsible for our food supplies - we'd have starved to death.

Lol, you're trying to make out all those private sector workers were over the moon to be maintaining the food supply, all on their minimum wage pay. I'm sure the shareholders were more than happy but imagine the staff were ruing the day they stopped paying their union subs unlike the teachers.

No I wasn't. The point is that private enterprise is incredibly effective at getting things done. The state, not so much.

[spreadbetting]

Getting things done maybe, just not necessarily getting them done well or fairly though.

[firlandsfarm]

Boris has lost the plot if he goes for a new lockdown

Isolate or infect … maybe we should have a referendum to resolve it once and for all!

[wearthefoxhat]

Age - breakdown on deaths so far.

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[gazuty]

Age - breakdown on deaths so far.


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Take radical measures (spend public money and tax me) to protect old people and others who are vulnerable and set everyone else free. No more lockdowns, no more trashing the economy.

[Naffman]

GF has been ill these past few days and had to be sent home from work Tuesday night, been trying to get a test ever since but to no avail.

Got one at Hull's only site at 12pm today and t'was totally dead, we were the only car there and we were there a good 10 minutes!!

But we are running out of tests apparently, bullshit

[Derek27]

GF has been ill these past few days and had to be sent home from work Tuesday night, been trying to get a test ever since but to no avail.

Got one at Hull's only site at 12pm today and t'was totally dead, we were the only car there and we were there a good 10 minutes!!

But we are running out of tests apparently, bullshit

According to Jacob Rees-Mogg, instead of complaining when you got home, you should have cracked open the beers and started celebrating the phenomenal success of the UK's Covid-19 testing facilities.

[Naffman]

GF has been ill these past few days and had to be sent home from work Tuesday night, been trying to get a test ever since but to no avail.

Got one at Hull's only site at 12pm today and t'was totally dead, we were the only car there and we were there a good 10 minutes!!

But we are running out of tests apparently, bullshit

According to Jacob Rees-Mogg, instead of complaining when you got home, you should have cracked open the beers and started celebrating the phenomenal success of the UK's Covid-19 testing facilities.

The closest site for about 500k people and 1 person there it's just laughable and to think we believe they're running out of cotton buds

[spreadbetting]

According to Frank "private enterprise is incredibly effective at getting things done", maybe it's just a pity the Givernment continually award G4S all the large and lucrative contracts.

[superfrank]

According to Frank "private enterprise is incredibly effective at getting things done", maybe it's just a pity the Givernment continually award G4S all the large and lucrative contracts.

The state is so useless at outsourcing and procurement that private companies routinely run rings round them (and sadly taxpayers get terrible value). See IT and defence procurement disasters, PFI contracts and now COVID. Ultimately it's the fault of govt. and the clueless people they employ.

[spreadbetting]

K, I see, so it's not the private company that's incompetent it's the government's fault for contracting them, much clearer now Frank, thanks for clearing that up.

[superfrank]

K, I see, so it's not the private company that's incompetent it's the government's fault for contracting them, much clearer now Frank, thanks for clearing that up.

My pleasure.

There is nothing stopping socialists forming co-operatives and bidding for govt contracts. But I guess that would be almost entrepreneurial - much easier to get employed by the state and moan about everything.