Suggestions : BAMI - Bet Angel Market Import

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Would you like to see BAMI incorporated into BA??

Yes, yes, yes. I've always wanted this included in BA
38
79%
No, I trade manually and can't see any benefit for me
7
15%
Not sure - but that's just me -always on the fence!!
3
6%
 
Total votes: 48
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jimibt
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Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:03 am

in view of the recent spate of account restrictions, due to (potentially) excessive use of practice mode, I think the time has come to seriously review the approach suggested here. Not only would it prevent account restriction, it would bring additional revenue to BA whilst satisfying demand.

welshboy06
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Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:13 pm

It would be good of we had an easy to use piece of software that can import the market streaming data BF offer. I know it's an expensive option but it will allow robust back testing for the average user.

This can be done using LinusP's Betfair lightweight API but not everyone on this forum is comfortable with Python or even programming at all

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Barnobee
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Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:02 pm

I have just voted, this would be a brilliant feature for many reasons.

Rich

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BetScalper
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Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:49 pm

Vote YES from me.

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Korattt
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:32 am

yes from me because if possible I could test some automation without wasting an afternoon trying it when I could be trading, not all of us have the capacity to do both at the same time, testing & trading

spreadbetting
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:30 pm

No doubting it'd be a useful addition to the software but I'd be very surprised if it would be worth the effort for BA.

32 yes's over 2 years and probably most of those would drop out when faced with Betfair's current charges of £200 per month per sport for worthwhile data before you even consider BA's charges to recover the cost and ongoing cost of development.

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Euler
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Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:59 am

I'm not saying we wouldn't entertain it, but I think there are better solutions. But also, you could spend ages backtesting something only to find it never works when in live mode. That's my experience, there is no better tutor than the market itself.

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pdenoeud
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Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:45 am

I am VERY interested by such feature, and I am ready to pay extra money for it. It could be offered as an extra plugin. People ineterested would pay for it.
To me, the key features are:
- possibility to play back a guardian on many events in the past
- possibility for the guardian to access current score in back testing mode

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jimibt
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Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:22 pm

funny to see this thread re-appearing every now and again. it does however seriuosly make me wonder how a certain piece of software, out there right now, is able to offer this functionality and at the same time, generate an income from it. we've heard many times that the licencing would make this feature restictive to implement. my question; how does this *other* software offering manage to make this feature available as i'm assuming it also stays inside the BF t&c's (plus it receives revenue as it is an additional extra).

i've heard the pros and cons about market participation etc changing the outcomes. however, for some strategies, being able to apply small changes in the rule, and replay across the market(s) is surely a huge plus, rather than having to wait until the next day and making changes on the fly that are always difficult to truly impact analyse.

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Euler
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Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:20 pm

Current Betfair terms won't let us develop anything that accesses historic data without signing a data license agreement and that involves paying them a hefty fee upfront. The only useful data IMO, would be the pro data which would cost you £200 a month per sport, which is prohibitive to most I would think. That money would go straight to Betfair, we wouldn't get a penny in revenue for that. We are also not allowed to resell that data under the license agreement, so can't derive any additional revenue from that.

Of course, you can just pay that money to Betfair and do your own data analysis on it using tools you develop. I think that's probably a more viable option unless Betfair change terms.

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