Football trading : Match fixing

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Kafkaesque
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Thu May 17, 2018 10:38 pm

convoysur-2 wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:11 pm
ok i see it now on the bottom -the green box says advances to next round,,so libertad and tucuman are already qualified for next round
Incorrect to the best of my knowledge. Advances in front of the top in the table, you've found, indicates that whoever finishes there will advance, ie. not necessarily who's placed there now.

They likely haven't agreed it as such, but the match will be a real pain. Many South American leagues are gamemanship from any side that has a result they deem good, no matter how far along the match is. Argentinian football is the absolute worst at it. If you, despite not being a football guy, happened to watch the Arsenal vs. Atletico semis, then think not one but likely two teams acting like Atletico, and worse actually, from minute 1. It'll be all rolling around with any tackle, taking 45 seceonds for every throw-in, misplacing the ball on purpose at corners etc. Anything's fair game.

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Thu May 17, 2018 10:52 pm

ok i see it now on the bottom -the green box says advances to next round,,so libertad and tucuman are already qualified for next round
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Incorrect to the best of my knowledge. Advances in front of the top in the table, you've found, indicates that whoever finishes there will advance, ie. not necessarily who's placed there now.

I Think i know what your saying -but looking at the points libertad and tucuman are clear .the other game tonight with pinerol and the strongest cant catch them on points (i think)

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Thu May 17, 2018 11:01 pm

convoysur-2 wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:52 pm

I Think i know what your saying -but looking at the points libertad and tucuman are clear .the other game tonight with pinerol and the strongest cant catch them on points (i think)
If Penarol win and Tucuman loses then they both have 9 points with Penarol advancing on goal difference.

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Fri May 18, 2018 12:06 am

anyone watching it? seems like no one attempts to score,,SWEET

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Fri May 18, 2018 1:08 am

FULL TIME 0-0 ,,

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Fri May 18, 2018 1:11 am

convoysur-2 wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 1:08 am
FULL TIME 0-0 ,,
Watched and backed the draw thank you for your tip. Was fretting a bit as did so just before the red card. Regret not taking a more ambitious position TBH

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Fri May 18, 2018 11:47 am

If you fancy this sort of thing, it's the final "regular season" matchday tonight in Italy's Serie B. The Cesena match is trading at about 1.79 for the draw and Venezia at 2.02. Like last night, I'm not convinced that a fix is in, but there'll definitely by a mutual understanding for the first one.

An important note here when looking at the table is that Italian football uses head2head before goal difference, so any number of scenarios could play out with two or more teams on the same number of points and be everchanging as the matches progress. I haven't delved too deeply into it (yet, maybe), but best as I can tell , 48 points will guarentee survival, as Ascoli and Brescia play each other and thus cannot both reach 48. Meaning a draw will do fine for both Cesena and Cremonese who have both been draw specialists this season anyway. The second one is a stranger one. Venezia can overtake Palermo (but not Parma), so they won't necessarily play for a draw. If Palermo does take a comfortable lead, it might change though, with Venezia conserving energy for a season extended by 2-4 matches and Pescara only needing a draw.

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Fri May 18, 2018 1:08 pm

Kafkaesque wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 11:47 am
If you fancy this sort of thing, it's the final "regular season" matchday tonight in Italy's Serie B. The Cesena match is trading at about 1.79 for the draw and Venezia at 2.02. Like last night, I'm not convinced that a fix is in, but there'll definitely by a mutual understanding for the first one.

An important note here when looking at the table is that Italian football uses head2head before goal difference, so any number of scenarios could play out with two or more teams on the same number of points and be everchanging as the matches progress. I haven't delved too deeply into it (yet, maybe), but best as I can tell , 48 points will guarentee survival, as Ascoli and Brescia play each other and thus cannot both reach 48. Meaning a draw will do fine for both Cesena and Cremonese who have both been draw specialists this season anyway. The second one is a stranger one. Venezia can overtake Palermo (but not Parma), so they won't necessarily play for a draw. If Palermo does take a comfortable lead, it might change though, with Venezia conserving energy for a season extended by 2-4 matches and Pescara only needing a draw.
1.72 is so unusually low - must be some kind of mutual understanding as you say. Makes sense if you think that Italian/SA teams wouldn't really think of mutually agreeing to play for a draw as being dishonourable (as we would perhaps).

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Wed May 23, 2018 11:00 pm

There was an Italian Serie D today that kicked off with draw odds of 1.49; lowest I have ever seen. Unsurprisingly the game end 0-0.

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