Technology : What should I use VPN or Tor?

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MickelC
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:04 pm

I want to hide my data from the ISP as it is my right to privacy. My question to all the tech geeks here is which should I go for, VPN or Tor ? Since its Halloween season and a lot of tech websites are offering Halloween sales and clearance deals with amazing price.
Please mention your choice with reasons. Thank you :roll:

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to75ne
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:20 pm

what you doing or what are you up to, that you need to invoke " your right of privacy "?

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ShaunWhite
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:06 pm

It's something everyone should be doing for many reasons. Take home shopping, the prices offered are adjusted according to the value of the device you're using to look at them with. Life insurance quotes are varied according to your interests, searches and news feeds are filtered to only show you items that agree with your world view, pop up adverts are chosen by listening to your device microphone all day and identifying keywords. The list is long besides the fundamental freedoms involved.

https://youtu.be/zBnDWSvaQ1I

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to75ne
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Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:11 am

ShaunWhite wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:06 pm
It's something everyone should be doing for many reasons. Take home shopping, the prices offered are adjusted according to the value of the device you're using to look at them with. Life insurance quotes are varied according to your interests, searches and news feeds are filtered to only show you items that agree with your world view, pop up adverts are chosen by listening to your device microphone all day and identifying keywords. The list is long besides the fundamental freedoms involved.

https://youtu.be/zBnDWSvaQ1I
never thought of that, just assumed the usual paranoia about some conspiracy that they are all out to get everyone, even the dullest and the greyest amongst us.

Rollox
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Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:40 am

Shaun,
Im going out to buy the cheapest mobile i can find some crappy pre-historic nokia model and all im going to look at is iceland adverts........all in all should save a few bob :D

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PDC
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Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:04 pm

ShaunWhite wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:06 pm
...Take home shopping, the prices offered are adjusted according to the value of the device you're using to look at them with. Life insurance quotes are varied according to your interests, searches and news feeds are filtered to only show you items that agree with your world view, pop up adverts are chosen by listening to your device microphone all day and identifying keywords.
Sorry, but I have not heard such rubbish in a long time.

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ShaunWhite
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Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:19 pm

PDC wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:04 pm
ShaunWhite wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:06 pm
...Take home shopping, the prices offered are adjusted according to the value of the device you're using to look at them with. Life insurance quotes are varied according to your interests, searches and news feeds are filtered to only show you items that agree with your world view, pop up adverts are chosen by listening to your device microphone all day and identifying keywords.
Sorry, but I have not heard such rubbish in a long time.
Think what you will, but ask yourself 1 question, what do you thing the likes of Cambridge Analytics actually do all day?

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PDC
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Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:48 pm

In all the online shopping I do I have never once seen any evidence of what you suggest, the prices have always been the same regardless of how I have accessed them.

Can you post us an example of where you are seeing the price fixing you suggest is taking place with online shopping. We can easily compare the price you are offered to the price I am offered.

Cambridge Analytics went bust btw.

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ShaunWhite
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Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:45 pm

PDC wrote:
Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:48 pm
In all the online shopping I do I have never once seen any evidence of what you suggest, the prices have always been the same regardless of how I have accessed them.

Can you post us an example of where you are seeing the price fixing you suggest is taking place with online shopping. We can easily compare the price you are offered to the price I am offered.

Cambridge Analytics went bust btw.
There's a dozen specialist companies offering the tech eg https://land.quicklizard.com/?keyword=P ... 0092441448 and if you have a look through wiki for things like variable pricing and price descrimination you'll see it's pretty standard. They also had a feature about it on You and Yours recently.

I'm not scaremongering, it's just how eCommerce operates..."for every single user"
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PDC
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Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:11 pm

I know it is possible and that there are companies who specialise in it but I have never seen it actually being used.

Can you give us an actual example of it in use?

Thee way you wrote about it it came across (to me at least) that it was common in online shopping but as I say I have never seen a single example of it so would be keen to see an example which by the sounds of it should be easy for you to provide.

It is one of the arguments about the implementation of smart meters for electrical use, but I think it will be a very long time until we ever actually see it in practice.

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