That would be easy enough to explain. "I've been voted in and you haven't".greenmark wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:52 pmAs I said the conversation with Her Majesty will be interesting.
"So you wanted to get rid of me and my legacy and the future of my family - explain".
Next Prime Minister / Tory Party Leader
AndDerek27 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:00 pmThat would be easy enough to explain. "I've been voted in and you haven't".
"I've given my life to the service of this country, you're a no-mark half-wit that can't even express your own policies when given prime-time coverage."
Slam dunk!!
That's assuming we don't end up with a hung parliamentDerek27 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:58 pmSurely 8 weeks of chaos is better than 2 years of it.Dallas wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:39 pmThey call for one every week, seems to be there go to line with nothing else to say and just to let people know they are still heregreenmark wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:12 pm
It's like being mauled by a dead sheep.
I swear Vince Cable was the most convincing of LibDem leaders. He was ranting about the credit crunch before it happened and seemed the most practical about the crap that has been surrounding us.
If only we could ditch idealogy the LibDems would romp to power.
And then screw it up, just like the Tories and Labour.
What's funny is they've spent the last 6 weeks complaining the Torys haven't made any decisions and left people scared of how they'll pay there bills this winter and now want to shut down parliament for another 8 weeks or so for a GE
and given the outcry for govt. support all over the country right now for any MP/party to try and say to people just hang fire pay your bills the best you can while we go around the country campaigning and hopefully by mid Nov we 'might' have another govt who can do things a differently but if not we'll have a few weeks of chaotic Brexit like parliament while we arguing among ourselves then maybe by Dec someone can announce something that might help
I just don't see how there would be any wide spread appetite among the electorate to pause things for another 8 weeks to have a GE now
Trust me, you won't know the difference between a hung parliament/ungoverned nation and a Tory government.Dallas wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:09 pmThat's assuming we don't end up with a hung parliamentDerek27 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:58 pmSurely 8 weeks of chaos is better than 2 years of it.Dallas wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:39 pm
They call for one every week, seems to be there go to line with nothing else to say and just to let people know they are still here
What's funny is they've spent the last 6 weeks complaining the Torys haven't made any decisions and left people scared of how they'll pay there bills this winter and now want to shut down parliament for another 8 weeks or so for a GE
and given the outcry for govt. support all over the country right now for any MP/party to try and say to people just hang fire pay your bills the best you can while we go around the country campaigning and hopefully by mid Nov we 'might' have another govt who can do things a differently but if not we'll have a few weeks of chaotic Brexit like parliament while we arguing among ourselves then maybe by Dec someone can announce something that might help
I just don't see how there would be any wide spread appetite among the electorate to pause things for another 8 weeks to have a GE now
So have soldiers, civil servants, policemen and women, lollypop ladies, it's nothing special.greenmark wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:05 pmAnd
"I've given my life to the service of this country, you're a no-mark half-wit that can't even express your own policies when given prime-time coverage."
Slam dunk!!
But Truss hasn't made those sacrifices either. In fact she has betrayed her poltical instincts to gain power. Perhaps the Tory party are more wary of her than we think. The problem for the rest of us is we have a governing party in disarray while we have the worst scenario ofr generations.Derek27 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:14 pmSo have soldiers, civil servants, policemen and women, lollypop ladies, it's nothing special.
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It wont be 2 years.Derek27 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:58 pmSurely 8 weeks of chaos is better than 2 years of it.Dallas wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:39 pmThey call for one every week, seems to be there go to line with nothing else to say and just to let people know they are still heregreenmark wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:12 pm
It's like being mauled by a dead sheep.
I swear Vince Cable was the most convincing of LibDem leaders. He was ranting about the credit crunch before it happened and seemed the most practical about the crap that has been surrounding us.
If only we could ditch idealogy the LibDems would romp to power.
And then screw it up, just like the Tories and Labour.
What's funny is they've spent the last 6 weeks complaining the Torys haven't made any decisions and left people scared of how they'll pay there bills this winter and now want to shut down parliament for another 8 weeks or so for a GE
If the governments across Europe are going to cap energy prices then its going to cost a serious amount of money.
Example: UK
- Cap at £2,000 per domestic household, assume the whole sale market price rises to £6,000 in January. That means we would need to find £4,000 x 18 million = £72,000,000,000. And that doesn't take into account businesses, which would be another £132,000,000,000. Then what happens in April 2023, July 2023, October 2023. Add on strikes, inflation plus everyone (that still has a job) wants 15% pay increase.
Now multiple that by France, Germany, Italy, Spain and every other EU country. Someone said it already on here, Putin did have an ace up his sleeve.
For me at least, take the risk, use all that money and just get rid of him. Probably cheaper in the long run.
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The sums dont add up, come February 2023 eveyone will realise that capping engergy costs is not sustainable. There wont be any money left for anything. And people can forget about the NHS, it will just crumble into the abyss.
UK PLC is still creditworthy. £2.3 trillion is peanuts against post WW2 debt. Not good I grant you, but a guideline for what we can do if we pull together.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:39 pmThe sums dont add up, come February 2023 eveyone will realise that capping engergy costs is not sustainable. There wont be any money left for anything. And people can forget about the NHS, it will just crumble into the abyss.
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The big difference back then was that we borrowed from USA and Canada at a fixed rate of 2% for the entire life of the loans. International Interest lending rates are set to rocket. We no longer part of the EU so can't borrow from the European Central Bank at 0%, witch other EU members will be able too.greenmark wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:02 pmUK PLC is still creditworthy. £2.3 trillion is peanuts against post WW2 debt. Not good I grant you, but a guideline for what we can do if we pull together.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:39 pmThe sums dont add up, come February 2023 eveyone will realise that capping engergy costs is not sustainable. There wont be any money left for anything. And people can forget about the NHS, it will just crumble into the abyss.
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