DOB with Moving Exit Guardian Automation Bot
If you post the two files as you currently have them (or had them at the time that log was produced) i'll take a look latercensura wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:47 pmHi Dallas hope your weekend went well, so i tried ths again (i chnaged to 25% from 50% that is all)
I placed my be manually all ok and the hourse won so went from my 12/1 to win but the bot didnt work again i ended up greening out manually early when it had allready gone from 12/1 to 4/1 so well past 25% see log below
03/08/2021 13:33:41: [AS 2] : Automation Servant ( DOB with Moving Exit (1) ) Started
03/08/2021 13:34:12: [AS 3] : Automation Servant ( DOB with Moving Exit (1) ) Started
03/08/2021 13:34:15: [AS 4] : Automation Servant ( DOB with Moving Exit (1) ) Started
03/08/2021 13:34:16: [AS 5] : Automation Servant ( DOB with Moving Exit (1) ) Started
03/08/2021 13:34:56: £ 2.00 Back bet placed on Toussarok at 12.5. Fully matched at 12.5. Ref: 239925621556
03/08/2021 13:35:47: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
03/08/2021 13:35:47: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
03/08/2021 13:35:47: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
03/08/2021 13:36:49: Greened up Toussarok by Laying 4.46 at 5.6
03/08/2021 13:37:10: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
03/08/2021 13:40:25: [AS 2] : Automation Servant ( DOB with Moving Exit (1) ) Stopped.
03/08/2021 13:40:25: [AS 3] : Automation Servant ( DOB with Moving Exit (1) ) Stopped.
03/08/2021 13:40:25: [AS 4] : Automation Servant ( DOB with Moving Exit (1) ) Stopped.
03/08/2021 13:40:25: [AS 5] : Automation Servant ( DOB with Moving Exit (1) ) Stopped.dobpng.png
Hi
I'm pretty new to this and though I have read through this conversation when I first uploaded this bot, I don't remember seeing anyone ask this.
Can anyone tell me how to ensure that when the stop lose kicks in the second or even third time , that the previous attempt is cancelled?
This has only happened to me in live mode (luckily minimal stakes, but on a number of occasions it fires the second attempt to trade out, to full amount and both trades get taken - turning a back bet into a lay bet. This usually happens when the horse comes back in and wins, which is much more costly than minimal stakes. (Of course this is when I feel it, but it happens other times too.)
Your help would be gratefully received.
I'm pretty new to this and though I have read through this conversation when I first uploaded this bot, I don't remember seeing anyone ask this.
Can anyone tell me how to ensure that when the stop lose kicks in the second or even third time , that the previous attempt is cancelled?
This has only happened to me in live mode (luckily minimal stakes, but on a number of occasions it fires the second attempt to trade out, to full amount and both trades get taken - turning a back bet into a lay bet. This usually happens when the horse comes back in and wins, which is much more costly than minimal stakes. (Of course this is when I feel it, but it happens other times too.)
Your help would be gratefully received.
When a green up rule triggers by default it cancels any unmatched bets in the market (so they should be gone before the green up bet even gets to the market in-play).RayC wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:22 pmHi
I'm pretty new to this and though I have read through this conversation when I first uploaded this bot, I don't remember seeing anyone ask this.
Can anyone tell me how to ensure that when the stop lose kicks in the second or even third time , that the previous attempt is cancelled?
This has only happened to me in live mode (luckily minimal stakes, but on a number of occasions it fires the second attempt to trade out, to full amount and both trades get taken - turning a back bet into a lay bet. This usually happens when the horse comes back in and wins, which is much more costly than minimal stakes. (Of course this is when I feel it, but it happens other times too.)
Your help would be gratefully received.
First check your 'Green' settings in your main settings area just to ensure you haven't changed this on the profile you are using.
If that's still OK it could be your refresh rate is to slow (or poor/intermittent connection), the following post explains how you can ensure you are refreshing the markets as fast as possible for your rules to have the best chance of triggering
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=11491
Hi Dallas , I am a newbie at this and trying out this excellent Bot on practice mode. Thanks for your help as I do not understand how this horse that won the race gave me a profit only of $4 ( on a $10 back bet ) that is less than the DOB profit . Shouldnt it have exited at 1.4 ? and why at 2.82 as per below log.
I have made no changes to the original automation bot. My refresh rate both on Gaurdian and One click screen is 20ms.
many thanks !
14/08/2021 16:47:07: Market changed to Morphettville (AUS) 14th Aug - 16:47 R5 1800m Hcap
14/08/2021 16:48:57: Market has been suspended
14/08/2021 16:48:58: Market has been unsuspended
14/08/2021 16:48:58: Market is in-play
14/08/2021 16:50:51: Market has been suspended
14/08/2021 16:52:57: Market changed to Kembla Grange (AUS) 14th Aug - 16:55 R7 1400m Hcap
14/08/2021 16:54:55: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for 5. Frosty Rocks: exit = 4 - 50% = 2
14/08/2021 16:54:55: [G_Auto 1] : $ 10.00 Back bet placed on 5. Frosty Rocks at 3.95. Fully matched at 4. Ref: 10013
14/08/2021 16:55:18: Market has been suspended
14/08/2021 16:55:19: Market has been unsuspended
14/08/2021 16:55:19: Market is in-play
14/08/2021 16:56:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for 5. Frosty Rocks: new exit = 1.3 + 10 ticks = 1.4
14/08/2021 16:56:25: [G_Auto 1] : Placed closure bet with greening on 5. Frosty Rocks by Laying 10.81 at 3.7
14/08/2021 16:56:29: [G_Auto 1] : Placed closure bet with greening on 5. Frosty Rocks by Laying 3.37 at 2.82
14/08/2021 16:56:32: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for 5. Frosty Rocks: new exit = 1.13 + 10 ticks = 1.23
14/08/2021 16:56:38: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for 5. Frosty Rocks: new exit = 1.05 + 10 ticks = 1.15
14/08/2021 16:56:39: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for 5. Frosty Rocks: new exit = 1.02 + 10 ticks = 1.12
14/08/2021 16:56:40: Market has been suspended
I have made no changes to the original automation bot. My refresh rate both on Gaurdian and One click screen is 20ms.
many thanks !
14/08/2021 16:47:07: Market changed to Morphettville (AUS) 14th Aug - 16:47 R5 1800m Hcap
14/08/2021 16:48:57: Market has been suspended
14/08/2021 16:48:58: Market has been unsuspended
14/08/2021 16:48:58: Market is in-play
14/08/2021 16:50:51: Market has been suspended
14/08/2021 16:52:57: Market changed to Kembla Grange (AUS) 14th Aug - 16:55 R7 1400m Hcap
14/08/2021 16:54:55: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for 5. Frosty Rocks: exit = 4 - 50% = 2
14/08/2021 16:54:55: [G_Auto 1] : $ 10.00 Back bet placed on 5. Frosty Rocks at 3.95. Fully matched at 4. Ref: 10013
14/08/2021 16:55:18: Market has been suspended
14/08/2021 16:55:19: Market has been unsuspended
14/08/2021 16:55:19: Market is in-play
14/08/2021 16:56:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for 5. Frosty Rocks: new exit = 1.3 + 10 ticks = 1.4
14/08/2021 16:56:25: [G_Auto 1] : Placed closure bet with greening on 5. Frosty Rocks by Laying 10.81 at 3.7
14/08/2021 16:56:29: [G_Auto 1] : Placed closure bet with greening on 5. Frosty Rocks by Laying 3.37 at 2.82
14/08/2021 16:56:32: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for 5. Frosty Rocks: new exit = 1.13 + 10 ticks = 1.23
14/08/2021 16:56:38: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for 5. Frosty Rocks: new exit = 1.05 + 10 ticks = 1.15
14/08/2021 16:56:39: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for 5. Frosty Rocks: new exit = 1.02 + 10 ticks = 1.12
14/08/2021 16:56:40: Market has been suspended
Its was most probably due to it being an Aus race, the in-play liquidity is far less than you see in UK races which means much greater gaps in back/lay prices.rkay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 6:12 amHi Dallas , I am a newbie at this and trying out this excellent Bot on practice mode. Thanks for your help as I do not understand how this horse that won the race gave me a profit only of $4 ( on a $10 back bet ) that is less than the DOB profit . Shouldnt it have exited at 1.4 ? and why at 2.82 as per below log.
I have made no changes to the original automation bot. My refresh rate both on Gaurdian and One click screen is 20ms.
many thanks !
The concept of the rule assumes the both the back and lay pricres are close together and both shortening, but as the liquidity is so low for In-Running Aus markets the back price could go to a new low while the lay price is still higher than this new low + 10 ticks and therefore trigger the green up rule
So in a UK market as the runner trades at 1.30 and sets a new exit at 1.30 + 10 ticks (1.40)
the lay price would probably be <1.40 and only if that goes above 1.40 will it trigger
But in a Aus market the lay price could and according to you log must have been 3.7 when the back price hit 1.30 and therefore triggered the green up rule
If you want to use is on Aus markets there are some additional conditions you can add to make it more suited
Sounds like you may not be refreshing the markets fast enough in Guardian, this page explains how that works and where to make the required changes to ensure you have the fastest possible refresh rates
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=11491
They do but its very difficult to work with
https://historicdata.betfair.com/#/home
You'd be better off using a data capture worksheet (there are plenty of ready-made ones you can download from the Betfair data section, and capture your own in-play data
viewforum.php?f=54
Hi Dallas , regarding my post and your comments re trading low liquidity Aus markets ( you were abs right ) .
I tried this bot in UK markets . My Gaurdian refresh rate at 20ms and and market switch time 60 secs ( I am in nz and not watching the races ) - hope these settings are correct ? Also Restrict refresh unticked.
I got great results in one race , with profit more that the usual DOB , but on 2 x races .. the horse went on to win or race at a much lower lay price than DOB with profits only small fraction of DOB. The trades were closed at a higher lay price for some reason . I am attaching log for one of the races below . The horse traded at a low of 4.0 inrunning. I have read earlier posts on this issue , could these trades be exiting at a sudden price spike which is happening quite often ?
Many thanks for your help!
19/08/2021 23:54:28: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
19/08/2021 23:54:34: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
20/08/2021 05:34:55: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: exit = 13.5 - 50% = 6.8
20/08/2021 05:34:55: [G_Auto 1] : $ 5.00 Back bet placed on French Mix at 13. Fully matched at 13.5. Ref: 241527524807
20/08/2021 05:36:38: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
20/08/2021 05:36:38: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
20/08/2021 05:36:38: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
20/08/2021 05:38:14: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 6.6 + 10 ticks = 8.6
20/08/2021 05:38:17: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 6.2 + 10 ticks = 8.2
20/08/2021 05:38:26: [G_Auto 1] : Placed closure bet with greening on French Mix by Laying 6.43 at 10.5
20/08/2021 05:38:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 5.9 + 10 ticks = 7.8
20/08/2021 05:38:29: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 5.7 + 10 ticks = 7.4
20/08/2021 05:38:31: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 5.5 + 10 ticks = 7
20/08/2021 05:38:32: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 5.1 + 10 ticks = 6.2
20/08/2021 05:38:35: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 5 + 10 ticks = 6
20/08/2021 05:38:36: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 4.5 + 10 ticks = 5.5
20/08/2021 05:38:38: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 4.3 + 10 ticks = 5.3
20/08/2021 05:39:11: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:12: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:13: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:14: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:15: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:17: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:19: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
I tried this bot in UK markets . My Gaurdian refresh rate at 20ms and and market switch time 60 secs ( I am in nz and not watching the races ) - hope these settings are correct ? Also Restrict refresh unticked.
I got great results in one race , with profit more that the usual DOB , but on 2 x races .. the horse went on to win or race at a much lower lay price than DOB with profits only small fraction of DOB. The trades were closed at a higher lay price for some reason . I am attaching log for one of the races below . The horse traded at a low of 4.0 inrunning. I have read earlier posts on this issue , could these trades be exiting at a sudden price spike which is happening quite often ?
Many thanks for your help!
19/08/2021 23:54:28: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
19/08/2021 23:54:34: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
20/08/2021 05:34:55: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: exit = 13.5 - 50% = 6.8
20/08/2021 05:34:55: [G_Auto 1] : $ 5.00 Back bet placed on French Mix at 13. Fully matched at 13.5. Ref: 241527524807
20/08/2021 05:36:38: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
20/08/2021 05:36:38: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
20/08/2021 05:36:38: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
20/08/2021 05:38:14: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 6.6 + 10 ticks = 8.6
20/08/2021 05:38:17: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 6.2 + 10 ticks = 8.2
20/08/2021 05:38:26: [G_Auto 1] : Placed closure bet with greening on French Mix by Laying 6.43 at 10.5
20/08/2021 05:38:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 5.9 + 10 ticks = 7.8
20/08/2021 05:38:29: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 5.7 + 10 ticks = 7.4
20/08/2021 05:38:31: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 5.5 + 10 ticks = 7
20/08/2021 05:38:32: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 5.1 + 10 ticks = 6.2
20/08/2021 05:38:35: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 5 + 10 ticks = 6
20/08/2021 05:38:36: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 4.5 + 10 ticks = 5.5
20/08/2021 05:38:38: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 4.3 + 10 ticks = 5.3
20/08/2021 05:39:11: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:12: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:13: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:14: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:15: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:17: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for French Mix: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
20/08/2021 05:39:19: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended