Mad Bomber??

[steven1976]

That chart guatami posted, the 40k matched bet has hardly tickled the market. Makes you wonder how much is real.

[oscar123]

There are definitely people pretending to be him today, ive seen 20k left just out of the money a few times in an attempt to spoof people.

Also people are now trying to pre-empt him as you see prices drifting before the money has even arrived, then crashing back in when it doesnt come.

Had one of my best trades for a while today courtesy of his actions, though to be honest i wish he'd go away now, as it has made the markets very spoofy, choppy, and difficult to trade with any confidence, it just all becomes about him, especially now everybody is aware of it.

[to75ne]

[just saw him. What is his strategy?

would appear to be an idiot with lots of money. no strategy
but then again who knows [/quote]

by randn123 » Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:26 pm

[/quote]
So he is just trying to do the other side I would assume and he probably pretty good at getting the other side or he wouldn't do it.[/quote]

maybe but then he started laying air squadron (fav 16:40 at carlisle) well after it was obviously a non runner, so i dont actually believe there is a real thought out strategy, neither do i believe he is the bomber that this thread refers too.

but i could be wrong, who really can say say for sure?
just exploit it if you can, while you can.

[Euler]

Same guy, different strategy.

On a lot of races today money was being put outside the matching zone in an attempt to fool people into think he was back. Very little taken.

[andyfuller]

There are definitely people pretending to be him today, ive seen 20k left just out of the money a few times in an attempt to spoof people.

Also people are now trying to pre-empt him as you see prices drifting before the money has even arrived, then crashing back in when it doesnt come.

Had one of my best trades for a while today courtesy of his actions, though to be honest i wish he'd go away now, as it has made the markets very spoofy, choppy, and difficult to trade with any confidence, it just all becomes about him, especially now everybody is aware of it.

That has been the pattern pretty much every time they have shown up over the years - early doors it is easy money, then it becomes very hard to get on, then people pre-empt, then people pretend to be him, all making the markets very hard to trade and you begin to wish they never showed up at all as it can screw up several days of trading.

I had a look at it yesterday but looked to exploit it via Betdaq, I didn't mange much and gave up when it became clear that a lot of the time people were sticking orders up to make it look like the bomber was about as Peter says.

[herbie]

Bully is back..

[Naffman]

What a legend!

[Euler]

I haven't seen him, but have skipped a few races to look at the API issues

[mcfc1981]

he is around just a little less obvious.......in pretty much lay mode

[Dallas]

No way was the same guy from tuesday here today, was aggression and balls tuesday - today at best was just another wanna be! or as oscar123 stated yesterday just someone trying to trick the growing number pre-empters.
Never seen him lay more than one runner at a time today, never moved his cash several ticks in front of que to move the market that way and only showed up a very few times.

[Euler]

Agree with Dallas, unless I've missed him, I've not seen him today.

[mcfc1981]

he was at one stage laying the front 3 for around 4k a pop driving the price up.
another tactic he was using was laying a runner for 4k usual around the 5 to 6s odds and would lay the said runner for about 16k in total(cancelling then appearing at higher odds)

[Euler]

That looked like normal activity to me?

[giulio2010]

Sometime ago, in 2013, a friend came to my house and asked informations about an investiment he has done. He showed me some investiment plan he agreed with a company based in new zeland called Emporio Capital.
After a little research I have found out that the company was from Portugal and claimed to invest some in Betfair trading and some in pension scheme.
I have started to investigate as my friend only recieved 1500 euro back from an investiment of 10000 euro and never heard from them again.
I have found out that this people were collecting big sums of money in Europe and USA and every two years changed name because failed to deliver.
The name of the companys were Emporio Capital, Goodsense Investments, Euro Champions Fund and Jorge Queiroz.

I have heard that they burned millions of dollars and euros in a short period. I heard that they even sponsored important car races events. There were investors who lost between 250K to 500K in this investiment plan.
I have heard that they were the backing bombers ( there may be other bombers this I dont know ), started only with portuguise footbal teams but tryed their luck with horse races also...
The man in charge, "Jorge Queiroz", has been reported in several countrys and being investigate for fraud....

[Naffman]

Don't like him anymore.