Only traded a few but fairly sure I saw you in the eve rik, looked like you were running 1 of your AUS HR strats but on smaller size
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I'm used to disappointment, Rik.
My bot picks up the odd £200 wins once in a blue moon but I know they're all there waiting to be taken Same as with the Aus races, one day I'll stay up late or even do the dogs manually and try to get more of them.
not sure what your talking about, occasional big spike in price?spreadbetting wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:35 am
My bot picks up the odd £200 wins once in a blue moon but I know they're all there waiting to be taken Same as with the Aus races, one day I'll stay up late or even do the dogs manually and try to get more of them.
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Run-of-the-mill sports traders are a strange breed, you don't find many other professions posting copies of their invoices.
If you don't think botters can't make the same money as you rik then you don't know the right ones. The vast majority of the genuinely big players, 7 figures+ are 100% automated but you're not going to find them here, there's a whole universe beyond this small pond.
Would most fully automated players use excel or Guardian? I heard a few people mention excel is slightly slower than Guardian in some cases.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:21 amIf you don't think botters can't make the same money as you rik then you don't know the right ones. The vast majority of the genuinely big players, 7 figures+ are 100% automated but you're not going to find them here, there's a whole universe beyond this small pond.
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I imagine the very big players have custom designed bots and nothing to-do with Excel and/or BA.Leeds1919 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:11 pmWould most fully automated players use excel or Guardian? I heard a few people mention excel is slightly slower than Guardian in some cases.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:21 amIf you don't think botters can't make the same money as you rik then you don't know the right ones. The vast majority of the genuinely big players, 7 figures+ are 100% automated but you're not going to find them here, there's a whole universe beyond this small pond.
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Yep, there's no doubt you can use BA to make very substantial amounts and it's a really decent tool, but it has limitations being a jack of all trades comsumer level product no matter how good it is. The cost of entry to to world of custom software is prohibitive for most people and speculative too with no guarentees. With lost earnings you're probably looking at 100k to get properly tooled up and that might pay off, or might not.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:14 pmI imagine the very big players have custom designed bots and nothing to-do with Excel and/or BA.
Wow thats a big investment.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:48 pmYep, there's no doubt you can use BA to make very substantial amounts and it's a really decent tool, but it has limitations being a jack of all trades comsumer level product no matter how good it is. The cost of entry to to world of custom software is prohibitive for most people and speculative too with no guarentees. With lost earnings you're probably looking at 100k to get properly tooled up and that might pay off, or might not.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:14 pmI imagine the very big players have custom designed bots and nothing to-do with Excel and/or BA.
I'm just getting started with automation in your opinion should I be looking to use excel too or is there any point? Can Guardian do everything that excel can?
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I wouldn't worry about speed, but if you can do something in Guardian it's always going to be faster than via Excel because of the fewer process steps. Needing functionality you don't have in Guardian is why people would choose Excel, or simply familiararity if you already have VBA skills. Unless you're going to build your own software and a stripped down operating system for it to sit on (like LinisP) and then situate it across the road from Betfair DataCentre, speed won't be your edge.
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Well if you've got the skills to write software like that then on the open market you could easily be on £500/day contracting, about £130k a year. My brother-in-law is on £750. And it's going to take you at least a year fulltime to create a dog's b*ll*cks system. But when the end product has the potential to make 1 or 2m a year then a few hundered k isn't a disproportional punt.
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No activity on Crayford 14.07 ? or is this just me?
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No, occasional big wins, most are single figures, £200 is a bit of an outlier.rik wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:05 amnot sure what your talking about, occasional big spike in price?spreadbetting wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:35 am
My bot picks up the odd £200 wins once in a blue moon but I know they're all there waiting to be taken Same as with the Aus races, one day I'll stay up late or even do the dogs manually and try to get more of them.