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[LinusP]

On the subject of drones. Racecourses have been concerned about their use. If they keep being used and racecourses continue to voice their disapproval, I wonder if the exchanges may cease to offer in-running to deter drone users making all this redundant?

Zero chance of that happening.

[ANGELS15]

On the subject of drones. Racecourses have been concerned about their use. If they keep being used and racecourses continue to voice their disapproval, I wonder if the exchanges may cease to offer in-running to deter drone users making all this redundant?

Zero chance of that happening.

I love the confidence. I hope it doesn't happen, but what makes you so sure?

[LinusP]

On the subject of drones. Racecourses have been concerned about their use. If they keep being used and racecourses continue to voice their disapproval, I wonder if the exchanges may cease to offer in-running to deter drone users making all this redundant?

Zero chance of that happening.

I love the confidence. I hope it doesn't happen, but what makes you so sure?

Betfair want liquidity / commission, people breaking 'racecourse rules' to place bets is not in their remit.

[ANGELS15]

Zero chance of that happening.

I love the confidence. I hope it doesn't happen, but what makes you so sure?

Betfair want liquidity / commission, people breaking 'racecourse rules' to place bets is not in their remit.

Yes in-running betting is big business not sure what % of Betfair horse racing betting turnover.

[LinusP]

I love the confidence. I hope it doesn't happen, but what makes you so sure?

Betfair want liquidity / commission, people breaking 'racecourse rules' to place bets is not in their remit.

Yes in-running betting is big business not sure what % of Betfair horse racing betting turnover.

About 20%, note that this old:

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[Euler]

It's consistently been 20% for as along as I remember. No idea why it's stuck at that value, but there must be a reason.

[Black Ladder]

"Consumers using exchanges or bookmakers are not prevented by the Gambling Act from using a mobile phone or internet connection to bet in-running from racecourses."
Source: Gambling Commission.

[Black Ladder]

Off topic. Lets start a topic on In-running Home Players. Of which I believe a lot of rail-runners have now migrated.

[ANGELS15]

"Consumers using exchanges or bookmakers are not prevented by the Gambling Act from using a mobile phone or internet connection to bet in-running from racecourses."
Source: Gambling Commission.

Thanks for that I've tried in vain to google the answer but could never get anything concrete only the exeriences of punters from 10 years ago. I haven't been to the races in over 20 years but have felt like going one day. If I did it might be to a course like Windsor, Kempton or Sandown. I would possibly do a manual back to lay trade on Betfair. I can only hope in these modern times that thoses courses will have good 4g signals.

[Naffman]

"Consumers using exchanges or bookmakers are not prevented by the Gambling Act from using a mobile phone or internet connection to bet in-running from racecourses."
Source: Gambling Commission.

Thanks for that I've tried in vain to google the answer but could never get anything concrete only the exeriences of punters from 10 years ago. I haven't been to the races in over 20 years but have felt like going one day. If I did it might be to a course like Windsor, Kempton or Sandown. I would possibly do a manual back to lay trade on Betfair. I can only hope in these modern times that thoses courses will have good 4g signals.

I know someone who was at the track and was forced to stop betting in-running using their mobile otherwise if they were caught again then they'd be thrown out and never allowed back in

And those that do get away with it are that discreet you can barely notice they are doing it!

So how can racecourses stop people if the GC says otherwise?

[ANGELS15]

"Consumers using exchanges or bookmakers are not prevented by the Gambling Act from using a mobile phone or internet connection to bet in-running from racecourses."
Source: Gambling Commission.

Thanks for that I've tried in vain to google the answer but could never get anything concrete only the exeriences of punters from 10 years ago. I haven't been to the races in over 20 years but have felt like going one day. If I did it might be to a course like Windsor, Kempton or Sandown. I would possibly do a manual back to lay trade on Betfair. I can only hope in these modern times that thoses courses will have good 4g signals.

This is what's confusing. There are professionals betting in running from booths on-course. Perhaps you're allowed to use the internet for betting if you do it from a hospitality booth?

I know someone who was at the track and was forced to stop betting in-running using their mobile otherwise if they were caught again then they'd be thrown out and never allowed back in

And those that do get away with it are that discreet you can barely notice they are doing it!

So how can racecourses stop people if the GC says otherwise?

[ANGELS15]

Sorry Naffman somehow my answer got stuck in the middle of your post!

what I was saying is that the experience of the guy you mentioned was what might be expected that the racecourses take a dim view of people betting on their phones. However the professionals who operate from hospitality booths are allowed to use their laptops?

[greenmark]

"Consumers using exchanges or bookmakers are not prevented by the Gambling Act from using a mobile phone or internet connection to bet in-running from racecourses."
Source: Gambling Commission.

Thanks for that I've tried in vain to google the answer but could never get anything concrete only the exeriences of punters from 10 years ago. I haven't been to the races in over 20 years but have felt like going one day. If I did it might be to a course like Windsor, Kempton or Sandown. I would possibly do a manual back to lay trade on Betfair. I can only hope in these modern times that thoses courses will have good 4g signals.

I know someone who was at the track and was forced to stop betting in-running using their mobile otherwise if they were caught again then they'd be thrown out and never allowed back in

And those that do get away with it are that discreet you can barely notice they are doing it!

So how can racecourses stop people if the GC says otherwise?

Ascot T&C's
"Attendees may not use mobile telephones or any other communications device whilst on the Racecourse to communicate with anyone outside the Racecourse for the purpose of or in connection with any betting other than the placing of a bet via an online bookmaker."
Quite how they would be able to verify which you were doing, who knows!

[Derek27]

So how can racecourses stop people if the GC says otherwise?

The Gambling Commission doesn't stop people smoking in your house, but you might. I would guess racecourses feel free to impose their own rules.

[CallumPerry]

Thanks for that I've tried in vain to google the answer but could never get anything concrete only the exeriences of punters from 10 years ago. I haven't been to the races in over 20 years but have felt like going one day. If I did it might be to a course like Windsor, Kempton or Sandown. I would possibly do a manual back to lay trade on Betfair. I can only hope in these modern times that thoses courses will have good 4g signals.

I know someone who was at the track and was forced to stop betting in-running using their mobile otherwise if they were caught again then they'd be thrown out and never allowed back in

And those that do get away with it are that discreet you can barely notice they are doing it!

So how can racecourses stop people if the GC says otherwise?

Ascot T&C's
"Attendees may not use mobile telephones or any other communications device whilst on the Racecourse to communicate with anyone outside the Racecourse for the purpose of or in connection with any betting other than the placing of a bet via an online bookmaker."
Quite how they would be able to verify which you were doing, who knows!

Technically an exchange isn't a Bookmaker little bit of a grey area.