Southwell 12.20 18th January, 2018 What a joke!!!!!!!

[spreadbetting]

Timestamp the next at Chelmsford and I'll do the same, it could easily be down to your code or internal clock

[Derek27]

If Betfair know the result of a race so does anyone watching the same pictures, it doesn't matter what the clock says. If people are daft enough to place bets on horses that have lost it can only be good news for the rest of us.

[spreadbetting]

Timestamped at 7:31:59 for me , have to wait to see what Sporting Life say

[spreadbetting]

Sporting Life have it down as Off time:19:32:03 so looks like I've invented a time machine and 4 seconds ahead of them and at least 7 in front of you I think we can probably take Sporting Life's timings with a pinch of salt. I'll see what Paddy Power have as I used to scrape those for someone so assume they're more reliable

[Atho55]

Timeform have exactly the same winning time Sporting Life. I`m not sure if it`s the BHA who are responsible for the actual race time as their position on this looks a bit vague.

[spreadbetting]

What time did you have it as? I'd synced my clock before the race so no way was it 4 seconds early

[phrenetic]

My clock was also synced (it syncs every hour) and I had 7:31:59

My log file says:

Race marked as InPlay at 19:31:58.526

[spreadbetting]

Yep I just logged when the In Play indicator appeared using excel and Time() , good see to see we both agree so no doubt Sporting Life are just taking any old time, probably off the ATR feed for tonight which is around 5-6 second delay anyways

20:30:39 for this race

[spreadbetting]

Sporting life have it as Off time:20:30:49, so now they're 10 seconds off

[Atho55]

Bet365 have the same off time as Sporting Life to confuse things further

[phrenetic]

My log shows:

Race marked as InPlay at 20:30:40.540

Allowing for differing polling/transmission times from Betfair to our respective computers, I would say that our times pretty much coincide.

[ANGELS15]

Thanks for the tip on how to copy links Derek27. Also that's a very interesting point you made Spreadbetting about the ATR courses.

[Derek27]

I have no idea how the function of me placing a bet in BA then to BF actually works in detail but in a recent post I made re recording odds, I had noticed that the BA "Inplay" was 2-4 seconds behind the actual start time of the race therefore the actual race is over and the same 2-4 seconds before it is registered on BA. If the result of the race is already known by BF then I would imagine the money to match would not be available. Just a thought and I`m sure some of the boffins on here can offer a more accurate explanation.

I wouldn't worry about it now, but it probably would have been a good idea to start a new topic at this point.

[spreadbetting]

Thanks for the tip on how to copy links Derek27. Also that's a very interesting point you made Spreadbetting about the ATR courses.

With simple strategies like lay the field you can't expect to play each course/race and expect it to pay off. I know a few people doing it reasonably successfully and they basically tailor their bets to the race rather than fire them in for every race. i.e. if the betting isn't indicating there's likely to be a head bobbing finish they won't fire bets into the market on the off chance the likely winner gets caught as the liklihood is the on course players will beat you to it.

[Derek27]

I believe there was a time, probably shortly after in-play was introduced, where laying the field at 1.01 for every race was profitable (you probably needed to get your lays in early for queue positioning). Those day are long gone.

I remember the first 1.01 loser in a maiden at the Doncaster spring meeting, the horse kicking 3-4 lengths clear at the furlong pole before fading at the finish. At the time a lot of people including me thought they would be fairly rare.