Question about earnings of Professionals
- ShaunWhite
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Horse trading is not WoM or any TA. It is order flow and crowd psychology.
That is not vague it is the whole answer. You have already observed crowd behavior in tennis, now apply that to everything.
(yes Derek I'm on a day off and it's better than the telly)
That is not vague it is the whole answer. You have already observed crowd behavior in tennis, now apply that to everything.
(yes Derek I'm on a day off and it's better than the telly)
- MemphisFlash
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here is my MACCYD chart of the day.
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- northbound
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"I'm loving it!"
- ShaunWhite
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I like it Memphis. Most useful chart I've seen.
Luca.. Have you seen this... https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/be ... 3D&mw=Mzcy
I'm so going to enjoy the fallout if you disagree with it.
Luca.. Have you seen this... https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/be ... 3D&mw=Mzcy
I'm so going to enjoy the fallout if you disagree with it.
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@Derek I have a 3G broadboard with a monthly 5Gb so I can't see the videosShaunWhite wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:03 pmHorse trading is not WoM or any TA. It is order flow and crowd psychology.
That is not vague it is the whole answer. You have already observed crowd behavior in tennis, now apply that to everything.
(yes Derek I'm on a day off and it's better than the telly)
''You have already observed crowd behavior in tennis''
I have seen that the market is incredible efficient.
I don't know what kind of software you use guy, but you are incredible efficient, it' hard to beat you.
Probably you look at the bookmaker's odds and add the 10% of edge that the bookmaker keeps for itself
Anyway despite of whateversoftware you use there is always lack of knowledge somewhere in the market.
These kind of lack of knowlege, eccessiv risky positions, generate the value odds.
My job is to take these value odds and beat you. And this is also your job.
Anyway I don't know what are you talking about. I have to look at horse racings or a video, to know how it works
- MemphisFlash
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yes i totally agree BK charts are better than MACCYD'S
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- ShaunWhite
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I've seen order flow mentioned a lot on the forum but cant say I completely understand what it issShaunWhite wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:03 pmHorse trading is not WoM or any TA. It is order flow and crowd psychology.
That is not vague it is the whole answer. You have already observed crowd behavior in tennis, now apply that to everything.
Is it just how the money at the touch price is being matched?
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RonObvious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:40 pmI've seen order flow mentioned a lot on the forum but cant say I completely understand what it issShaunWhite wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:03 pmHorse trading is not WoM or any TA. It is order flow and crowd psychology.
That is not vague it is the whole answer. You have already observed crowd behavior in tennis, now apply that to everything.
Is it just how the money at the touch price is being matched?
It's somenthing they use as buzzwords. they are in loss, because think about it : it's a zero sum game, if everyone uses TA and order flow and bots, everyone would be rich. And the statistic is that only 2% are profit long term.
So don't even look for buzzword like orderflow, Wheight of money etc.
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I'm going to say yes but my next post might have an embarrassed face too. It's certainly my interpretation of the essence of it. Time for a clarification by those fond of the phrase?RonObvious wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:40 pm
I've seen order flow mentioned a lot on the forum but cant say I completely understand what it iss
Is it just how the money at the touch price is being matched?
Luca use some of your bank to buy some more 3g data. You need to speculate to accumulate.
- ShaunWhite
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Lucacrebbe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:47 pmIt's somenthing they use as buzzwords. they are in loss, because think about it....
Didn't even take a day. See Peter.... You talk bollocks and are a loser, Luca has unmasked you.
This guy really is something else.
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Most bread and butter pro's are simply exploiting small edges that can be consistently applied over numerous markets rather than trying to make the odd large £10K trades so generally it's a case of churning thru the markets. Even though there may appear to be decent liquidity on the .com site it doesn't mean that liquidity is where you want it to be and in general it's the opposite. At the end of the day your profit will come from a percentage of your turnover, for most of us that percentage is generally quite small so you need a large turnover to make it worthwhile.Lucacrebbe wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:55 amI would like to ask you how are those kind of gains possible if Betfair.com does not have that much liquidity to let those kind of gains to happen
I mean it's very difficult to match a bet of 5k/10k on betfair... without to have problems of hig spread and bad risk / reward ratio... so I was wondering, how can they make that such gains, without betting a big stake (10/20k) time after time?