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Dallas wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 11:33 am
For the last 11 days the number of deaths in Englands hospitals have now been lower than they were on the day of lockdown and still falling slowly
Infection rate is 5 times higher though...
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sionascaig wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:19 pm
Dallas wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 11:33 am
For the last 11 days the number of deaths in Englands hospitals have now been lower than they were on the day of lockdown and still falling slowly
Infection rate is 5 times higher though...
New cases are well down too
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Archery1969 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:02 pm
Kafkaesque wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 11:48 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:33 am


Public sector workers in the UK have traditionally never been paid a good wage. Why ?, probably because compared to Australia there are so many of them over here. There are roughly 6 million of them compared to 2 million in Australia and giving them all a pay rise would cost allot of dosh.

The majority of people in the armed forces over here are paid less than the minimum wage when you take into account that effecively there are on call 24/7.
65-ish million people in the UK with 6 million in the public sector vs 25-ish in Australia and 2 million doesn't exactly scream that's the reason.

Are the nurses in Andorra stacking up all their cash because it's so cheap to hand out since there's so few of them ;)
So why do you think public sector workers have always been under valued and under paid in the UK, its been the same for many decades regardless of which party was in power ?
I don't have sufficient insight into the inner workings of British politics to give any sort of qualified answer.

My simple point was that, as much as I don't know the answer, I'm fairly confident that it isn't found by looking at something as basic as absolute numbers (in employment). The UK has veered much more to one side with regards to public vs private sectors and ideological starting point than most western European countries, and I suspect the answer is hiding somewhere in that dynamic, but the finer points of how the, relative to other countries, salary numbers got to there, I won't pretend to have the faintest of ideas about.
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Naffman wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:24 pm
sionascaig wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:19 pm
Dallas wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 11:33 am
For the last 11 days the number of deaths in Englands hospitals have now been lower than they were on the day of lockdown and still falling slowly
Infection rate is 5 times higher though...
New cases are well down too
Infection rate (or 'R' number) is supposed to be between 0.7-1.0 now, compared to 3.0+ at the time of lockdown
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I try and watch the daily briefings but some days the bods roled out to actually give it come across at least to me with varying levels of confidence, standing at the podium and addressing the viewers.

Dominic Raab and Jonathan Van Tam I find particularly good.

It would be my preference to have the same bods do it every day too.
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Atho55 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:59 pm
I try and watch the daily briefings but some days the bods roled out to actually give it come across at least to me with varying levels of confidence, standing at the podium and addressing the viewers.

Dominic Raab and Jonathan Van Tam I find particularly good.

It would be my preference to have the same bods do it every day too.
I've stopped watching them now, I prefere to capture and look at the data i can find and draw my own conclusions rather than listening to the sound bites - like the peak on 8th April, it was clear by around the 15th certainly by the 20th from the govt data that was the day it peaked, yet it wasn't officially said on the daily press statement until around 6th/7th May by Boris
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Dallas wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:30 pm
I've stopped watching them now,
Gets boring but I still admire those wooden wall panels and doors.
sionascaig
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Dallas wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:40 pm
Naffman wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:24 pm
sionascaig wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:19 pm


Infection rate is 5 times higher though...
New cases are well down too
Infection rate (or 'R' number) is supposed to be between 0.7-1.0 now, compared to 3.0+ at the time of lockdown
The R number can be a bit misleading on its own though - its a measure of whether the number of infections is increasing or decreasing but doesn't really tell you much about number of cases already in population - I was thinking of the number of new infections then & now... If 90% of the population had the virus the R number would be very low indeed as no new people to infect!
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I can hear two people in the neighbourhood clapping. It was a nice gesture to begin with but I think it's getting a bit worn now.
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 8:03 pm
I can hear two people in the neighbourhood clapping. It was a nice gesture to begin with but I think it's getting a bit worn now.
Yeah the first week it was a nice gesture but after that it just seems to be about protecting your image on the street :roll:
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Naffman wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 11:17 am
Derek27 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 8:03 pm
I can hear two people in the neighbourhood clapping. It was a nice gesture to begin with but I think it's getting a bit worn now.
Yeah the first week it was a nice gesture but after that it just seems to be about protecting your image on the street :roll:
It's a social thing on our street as well. Everyone is strictly social distancing so it's a chance to get together as a small community and give each other a wave.
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How about a market on how long Cummings will stay in his job? :lol:

BBC news suggests the allegations and evidence is piling up, with sightings of him out and about. His continued silence and arrogance is going to infuriate people and isolate the cabinet. The transport Secretary was asked if members of the public in the same situation can do as Cummings did but avoided the question, as you would expect.
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Opposition parties, the MSM and twitter mob have been desperate to get Cummings this weekend, but thankfully Boris has held firm.

DC is a national hero in my book and is doing a great job for the country.
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The more Boris holds firm the better, we'll all get a buy one, get one free with both of them going :)
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Covid Briefing, all the muppet journalists asking the same questions about Cummings. What a waste of important time to focus on such insignificance...
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