Can you be alerted to large orders on ladder?

[jimibt]

mmmm
i see you already mentioned it here...somehow I missed it.

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likewise, i'd missed that. looks like (as atho says), it could allow you to setup s psuedo ladder (virtual or otherwise) and party against it. this has made me think now (been a while!! )

[Atho55]

This is how I did the odds...

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Then you can use that SV to look up anything else.

[sniffer66]

I took WOM out to 8 places each way a while ago. Just to play around with. Slight lag as it added the values together but it worked

[jimibt]

This is how I did the odds...


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Then you can use that SV to look up anything else.

so yeah, just do the same with the (££money) orders waiting on each price and you're sorted!!

i.e. along the lines that LeeCal suggested:



[EDIT] - word of caution. this veracity approach is difficult to validate, but looks to do the job as expected. i.e. you'll need to eyeball the ladder in another screen to compare until you're satisfied that prices and money match up.

[ShaunWhite]

likewise, i'd missed that. looks like (as atho says), it could allow you to setup s psuedo ladder (virtual or otherwise) and party against it. this has made me think now (been a while!! )

I think I'd have seen it if they'd added Nth Best rather than adding offsets to 1st best, 2nd best etc. New items usually get added to the pick list rather than being derivatives of existing ones. It's just a bit of a design departure and one I can't find any user doco for. Then again I don't use guardian so for me it's all academic, but I do like to keep up to speed with what BA can do.

[jimibt]

likewise, i'd missed that. looks like (as atho says), it could allow you to setup s psuedo ladder (virtual or otherwise) and party against it. this has made me think now (been a while!! )

I think I'd have seen it if they'd added Nth Best rather than adding offsets to 1st best, 2nd best etc. New items usually get added to the pick list rather than being derivatives of existing ones. It's just a bit of a design departure and one I can't find any user doco for. Then again I don't use guardian so for me it's all academic, but I do like to keep up to speed with what BA can do.

shaun - i actually think it's an undocumented side-effect, rather than a feature, therefore caveat emptor!

[Dallas]

Just for reference as other have said its possible to store money waiting, and traded volume outside the top 3 (the options to select from the best 3 are just in the picklist as popular quick and easy reference points.)

But when wanting to store the value of 'money waiting', and 'volume traded' outside the top 3 you need to use 2 x Stored Values

First store the value of the 'lay price' plus 4 ticks (or whatever you want) with a name ie, 4thbestlayprice

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Then add a second stored value to store the;
'Money Avaliable to lay at a price for a selection'
OR
'Volume Traded at a Price of a Selection' etc

and for the price used to look up this info use 'Another Stored Value' and enter the name of your first stored value ie, 4thbestlayprice

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If you just look up the money waiting from the best lay price +4 ticks it will look at the amount of money waiting at the best lay price ie this could be, £4.40 and add 4 ticks to that to give a stored value of 4.8

[jimibt]

Just for reference as other have said its possible to store money waiting, and traded volume outside the top 3 (the options to select from the best 3 are just in the picklist as popular quick and easy reference points.)

But when wanting to store the value of 'money waiting', and 'volume traded' outside the top 3 you need to use 2 x Stored Values

First store the value of the 'lay price' plus 4 ticks (or whatever you want) with a name ie, 4thbestlayprice

Then add a second stored value to store the;
'Money Avaliable to lay at a price for a selection'
OR
'Volume Traded at a Price of a Selection' etc

and for the price used to look up this info use 'Another Stored Value' and enter the name of your first stored value ie, 4thBestLayPrice


Waiting.jpg


If you just look up the money waiting from the best lay price +4 ticks it will look at the amount of money waiting at the best lay price ie this could be, £4.40 and add 4 ticks to that to give a stored value of 4.8

Dallas -as ever, neatly pointed out and explained. Quick question tho. i presume that it goes without saying that the two stored values 4thBestLayPrice and 4thAmountWaiting will always need to be set in tandem due to the prices changing all the time. in short, these sv pairs should be set in the same condition. and likewise, should 4thVoumeTraded be added to the equation, it would be set at the same point in the same condition

[ShaunWhite]

If you just look up the money waiting from the best lay price +4 ticks it will look at the amount of money waiting at the best lay price ie this could be, £4.40 and add 4 ticks to that to give a stored value of 4.8

That was my point. You don't use the adjustment field to adjust the pick list item, you use it to adjust the value returned from the pick list item.

Wouldn't it just have been easier to have 1st Best, 2nd Best, 3rd Best & Nth Best....and for the last one you specify a value for N?

[Dallas]

Just for reference as other have said its possible to store money waiting, and traded volume outside the top 3 (the options to select from the best 3 are just in the picklist as popular quick and easy reference points.)

But when wanting to store the value of 'money waiting', and 'volume traded' outside the top 3 you need to use 2 x Stored Values

First store the value of the 'lay price' plus 4 ticks (or whatever you want) with a name ie, 4thbestlayprice

Then add a second stored value to store the;
'Money Avaliable to lay at a price for a selection'
OR
'Volume Traded at a Price of a Selection' etc

and for the price used to look up this info use 'Another Stored Value' and enter the name of your first stored value ie, 4thBestLayPrice


Waiting.jpg


If you just look up the money waiting from the best lay price +4 ticks it will look at the amount of money waiting at the best lay price ie this could be, £4.40 and add 4 ticks to that to give a stored value of 4.8

Dallas -as ever, neatly pointed out and explained. Quick question tho. i presume that it goes without saying that the two stored values 4thBestLayPrice and 4thAmountWaiting will always need to be set in tandem due to the prices changing all the time. in short, these sv pairs should be set in the same condition. and likewise, should 4thVoumeTraded be added to the equation, it would be set at the same point in the same condition

They'd need to run on the same rule (along with other 'pairs' if you were storing multiple prices),
ie, you'd set them on a 'Set/Modify Stored' value' rule
Then on your back/lay rule add a SV condition to test the final SV in the example above named 'amountwaiting' is 'X'

[sniffer66]

I was setting mine immediately after the other, same repeat interval, then calc'ing the result by adding all the values together just after and creating a %. There is a slight lag. But looking back I should have set them all in the same rule
Nothing I was doing seriously - just a little experiment

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[jimibt]

They'd need to run on the same rule (along with other 'pairs' if you were storing multiple prices),
ie, you'd set them on a 'Set/Modify Stored' value' rule
Then on your back/lay rule add a SV condition to test the final SV in the example above named 'amountwaiting' is 'X'

got it

[jimibt]

tbh -i can see this being a pretty useful set of keyed values (onto varying prices) as it would allow you to spot where gaps were across the ladder which had significant amounts on money waiting!! hmm -interesting

[Dallas]

I was setting mine immediately after the other, same repeat interval, then calc'ing the result by adding all the values together just after and creating a %. There is a slight lag. But looking back I should have set them all in the same rule
Nothing I was doing seriously - just a little experiment


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Did you also turn off all the logging?
If your updating them really fast even logging just the final cal could begin to slow your PC down after a while

[Dallas]

tbh -i can see this being a pretty useful set of keyed values (onto varying prices) as it would allow you to spot where gaps were across the ladder which had significant amounts on money waiting!! hmm -interesting

Stored values are a games changer, there's pretty much nothing you can't look up and reference now