Bet Angel - Release & version history : New beta version of Bet Angel v1.47.0

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ShaunWhite
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Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:37 pm

I'm upgrading from 1.44. Can I go straight to 1.47 without the versions inbetween ? I assume i can.

I've been looking at what's changed/new in 46 & 47 ....but was there ever a 1.45 ?
thanks

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Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:22 pm

convoysur-2 wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:25 pm
...if i do something like this is it still a problem with betfair placeing bets under 2 quid...
Should be ok. They are more concerned with people that only use practice mode and don't place real money into the exchange. Perhaps just ensure you place some larger staked bets each day too. If they had a problem with the behaviour, I would expect they'd send you a warning e-mail rather than just closing the account.

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Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:24 pm

ShaunWhite wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:37 pm
I'm upgrading from 1.44. Can I go straight to 1.47 without the versions inbetween ? I assume i can.

I've been looking at what's changed/new in 46 & 47 ....but was there ever a 1.45 ?
Yes you can upgrade directly to the latest version.
Version 1.45 didn't go on the forum first - it went live immediately when betfair switched off the Australian exchange.

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Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:46 pm

Tonight's Man City v Monaco was the perfect test for the Book% - It meant I could look at the ladder for the best price - instead of at the calculator - Great work! Filled my book twice!!

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Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:25 am

Wow, this is awesome BA team! Great new features, was looking forward for both.

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Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:01 pm

I would like to have a shortcut for removing Closed markets from Guardian. Or an automated feature to do that for me.
Or ability to remove closed markets from from synchronized [with guardian] watch list.

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Willygubbins
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Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:08 pm

With the new addition of Offsetting by percentage, Is there a new Spreadsheet/ or command to enact this on the spread sheet or is it as simple as typing:

=BACK[OFFSET:50%][WITHGREENING:TRUE]

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Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:42 pm

On a side note......
Is there any plans to increase the number of automation nominated selections?

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Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:49 pm

Willygubbins wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:08 pm
With the new addition of Offsetting by percentage, Is there a new Spreadsheet/ or command to enact this on the spread sheet or is it as simple as typing:

=BACK[OFFSET:50%][WITHGREENING:TRUE]
Nearly. You'd enter: BACK OFFSET_PERC:50.0 WITH_GREENING:TRUE

The new commands are:
  • OFFSET_PERC:x.x
  • STOP_PERC:x.x
  • STOP_PLACE_PERC:x.x

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Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:01 pm

Bet Angel wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:00 am

By Liability (Back & Lay Bets)
This option is most useful when you wish to trade by liability. Your back bets are staked in a similar way to the lay bets so that positions in the market can be easily opened and closed. In the case of a back bet, the ‘Seed Stake’ will now be your potential profit (the liability the person who takes your bet is accepting) so if you have selected a £20 stake and place a back bet at odds of 8.0 Bet Angel will calculate the amount required to realise a £20 profit; at odds of 8.0 it would mean a back bet of £2.86 is submitted to the market. This means if that selection wins you make a profit of £20 or a loss of -£2.86 if it loses.

By Book%
The ‘Seed Stake’ is divided by the placement price of the bet (the amount placed would be the same regardless of backing or laying). So, if you have selected a £20 stake and place a bet at odds of 5.0 the amount submitted would be £4 (£20 / 5.0 = £4) and if the same £20 stake was used to place a bet at odds of 2.2 the amount submitted would be £9.09 (£20 / 2.2 = £9.09).
errr... I'm probably being thick but aren't these the same apart from one stakes at Seed/Price and the other stakes at Seed/(Price-1), both stake equally each side. Or maybe this is the differnce?

It's tricky sometimes to work out these explainations as very similar options are worded in such different ways. It would be nice if the explaination also cut to the essence of the differences. It's clouding things to have Liabilty meaning my liability some cases and someones elses liability in others.
I can't throw stones though because my comments are usually even more verbose than these explainations.

So is it just,
Fixed Stake
Back stake = Preset amount
Lay stake = Preset amount

By Liability (Lay Only)
Back stake = Preset amount
Lay stake = Preset amount / (Price -1)

By Liability (Back & Lay Bets)
Back stake = Preset amount / (Price -1)
Lay stake = Preset amount / (Price -1)

By Book%
Back stake = Preset amount / Price
Lay stake = Preset amount / Price

By Tick Size
Back stake = Preset amount / Tick size
Lay stake = Preset amount / Tick size

?

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