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But it just beats you up, it goes up up down a bit, loads of money want up, up, down down down down down down !!Trader Pat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:09 pmI don't know where you got the idea to ignore ladder money but that's a fundamental error when trading horse racing markets, 90% of your focus should be on the ladder of the runner you're trading.
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goat68 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:31 pmBut it just beats you up, it goes up up down a bit, loads of money want up, up, down down down down down down !!Trader Pat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:09 pmI don't know where you got the idea to ignore ladder money but that's a fundamental error when trading horse racing markets, 90% of your focus should be on the ladder of the runner you're trading.
You know my opinion I think you're in the market too early and when the money arrives it can catch you out and beat you up so its best to wait and do nothing until you see that action on the ladder. Then when it starts you can make an informed judgement on what you think may happen. What you're doing is your getting involved in the market before this money arrives and there is nothing much happening.
I have to ask if you're ignoring charts and money on the ladder, what are you basing your entries on?
I base it on the charts. My comment meant to say everyone says don't base just on charts, that's just an intro...Trader Pat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:44 pmgoat68 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:31 pmBut it just beats you up, it goes up up down a bit, loads of money want up, up, down down down down down down !!Trader Pat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:09 pm
I don't know where you got the idea to ignore ladder money but that's a fundamental error when trading horse racing markets, 90% of your focus should be on the ladder of the runner you're trading.
You know my opinion I think you're in the market too early and when the money arrives it can catch you out and beat you up so its best to wait and do nothing until you see that action on the ladder. Then when it starts you can make an informed judgement on what you think may happen. What you're doing is your getting involved in the market before this money arrives and there is nothing much happening.
I have to ask if you're ignoring charts and money on the ladder, what are you basing your entries on?
So I was in at 9mins, given there was reasonable money coming in I thought it seemed reasonable. The sentiment changed at 4mins
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goat68 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:51 pmI base it on the charts. My comment meant to say everyone says don't base just on charts, that's just an intro...Trader Pat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:44 pm
You know my opinion I think you're in the market too early and when the money arrives it can catch you out and beat you up so its best to wait and do nothing until you see that action on the ladder. Then when it starts you can make an informed judgement on what you think may happen. What you're doing is your getting involved in the market before this money arrives and there is nothing much happening.
I have to ask if you're ignoring charts and money on the ladder, what are you basing your entries on?
So I was in at 9mins, given there was reasonable money coming in I thought it seemed reasonable. The sentiment changed at 4mins
In an evening meeting where there is 30 minutes between races its ok to trade 10 minutes out but you always have to be ready for the rush of money coming into the market. There's no set time for that to happen, could be 4 minutes could be 2 minutes but you'll notice when it arrives that's why you have to be careful how much exposure you already have in the market. During a normal day you can see when the money comes into the market because it coincides with the end of the previous race. Days like today are much harder to read because of clashes so its harder to know when the money will arrive but going forward if you insist on being in the market so early when there are still other races in play at least pay attention to when the previous race finishes so that you can see the money arriving and get a feel for it.
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Hi Kai, sorry but I'm not sure I'm following you ... are you saying most "foreigners" favour the in-running markets?
Great post, have you read the book by any chance and if so would you recommend it?speedyhamster wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:06 amabout mindsets
https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/01/2 ... k-mindset/
I meant they favor other sports mostly, hardly a secret. But yeah actually, the Portuguese for example are equally obsessed with the inplay racing market, haven't run into a single prerace trader.firlandsfarm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:06 amHi Kai, sorry but I'm not sure I'm following you ... are you saying most "foreigners" favour the in-running markets?
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What do you trade Kai?Kai wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:10 pmI meant they favor other sports mostly, hardly a secret. But yeah actually, the Portuguese for example are equally obsessed with the inplay racing market, haven't run into a single prerace trader.firlandsfarm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:06 amHi Kai, sorry but I'm not sure I'm following you ... are you saying most "foreigners" favour the in-running markets?
Football mostly. I like inplay racing though, while prerace is better suited to automation in my opinion.
Hang in there Mr Goat! What doesn't tilt you will only make you stronger. Except for outages that is
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If you'd rather be surrounded by other traders than degenerate gamblers then that's perfectly fine!
If we do a detailed comparison analysis which will take just a moment, we can conclude how trading prerace feels like
Compared to trading football markets
And finally inplay racing of course
Kai wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:35 pmIf you'd rather be surrounded by other traders than degenerate gamblers then that's perfectly fine!
If we do a detailed comparison analysis which will take just a moment, we can conclude how trading prerace feels like
Compared to trading football markets
And finally inplay racing of course