Trading Horse racing : Faster Pics Anyone?

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HorseRacer
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Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:44 pm

I read a lot about people with faster pics at home. Anyone able to point me to where I can get them?

Are there any online streams available faster than standard RacingUK?


Much appreciated!

Bluesky
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Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:21 pm

Hopefully some of the experts will answer this, but from what I have read there is no longer an advantage to be had doing this that there once was. Even for people at the track side, its nothing like as lucrative as in the past. I'm not sure why, hopefully someone will post to explain the reasons and enlighten us both.

HorseRacer
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Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:58 pm

Thanks BlueSky

Yes I think the margins are definitely slim now however from what I've heard there is still significant edge to be had.

There does seem to be a split in opinion though so if any experts can advise that'd be great!

Also I think with the switch to HD broadcasting some potential edge may have been re-introdruced, for example a lot of people betting with Racing UK just got a lot slower this year.

Looking forward to any advice or direction on this, thanks.

aperson
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Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:55 pm

I believe RUKHD is as close to real time as it was in standard def. It certainly hasn't added in the 3-4 second delay of other HD channels. I guess they have invested in the tech knowing some of their customer trade in play using them.

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Dallas
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Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:49 pm

The fastest pics are usually the streams from Betfair/Betdaq/Bet365 etc, these are usually a few seconds ahead of satellite TV.

The only other way to get faster pictures away from the course is with a SIS feed like bookies and trading rooms use

Bluesky
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Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:54 pm

Dallas wrote: The only other way to get faster pictures away from the course is with a SIS feed like bookies and trading rooms use
I have read somewhere (could have been on this forum but I read a lot of stuff on line related to horse racing), so I can't be sure where. That quite a few horse racing trading rooms started to open up in various places around the country a few years back. The selling point of them was that they had really fast pictures, and they would also provide training related to in running trading.

I believe that most of these rooms have now closed, I think there might still be one in Cardiff but I'm not absolutely sure. I am wondering why they all closed, my guess would be that the really quick pics which at one time gave traders an advantage stopped giving such an advantage. I am not sure why, perhaps with the advent of automation being more accessible to people without high level programming skills might be one reason, but I don't really know.

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Dallas
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Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:03 pm

They did become popular for a while and then yes have since slowly started to demise, can t be 100% sure why but imo would suspect that any edge they thought they had from the faster pics they soon relised where still being beaten by the on course guys.
So they needed another edge or go to the course themseleves

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mklim_irlpl
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Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:27 pm

By the way, did you try to trade in-play by the course from smartphone/tablet etc?

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Dallas
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Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:32 pm

mklim_irlpl wrote:By the way, did you try to trade in-play by the course from smartphone/tablet etc?
Not sure who your asking there, if its to a specfic poster if you use the 'quote' button it easier for others to see what its in response to

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mklim_irlpl
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Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:16 pm

...still being beaten by the on course guys.
You mentioned on course traders. I bet it's lucrative to be ahead of video stream.

In tennis at big events i can see positions being canceled a way ahead of the results available on betfair video.

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