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ShaunWhite
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Angelbaby wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:57 pm
I'm obviously naïve in this why do some traders get a head start, are you referring to automation or something more sinister?

Are you also advising to have a predefined and lay bet in the marekt exit due to the above?
It's not sinister, they're just highly efficient traders, with very fast systems and possibly a team of people who are highly skilled at reading the progress of a horse in a race, maybe even communicating from the course itself.

By the time you've spotted a horse is doing well or badly on BF tv, someone with a lifetime's experience with horses, and a professional setup behind them, will have done their trade and be sat back with a cuppa.

Sinister things do happen though, remember that there's many ways a jock can communicate while riding, a glance behind just before a fence, an adjustment of the goggles, two whips on the right or one on the left....can all send a message to an insider that (s)he's about to push a horse forward or slow it down. You'll never know, and even BF analysing their data, as they do, would find it hard to prove.
Angelbaby
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But we all have a 2 second delay on in play bets is that correct?
trader44
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some people dont have 2 seconds delay. some people get live pictures in boxes on the course,some stand on the course itself and see it as its happening and trade on their i pads ,others get live feeds , basically RUK is approx 1-1.5 seconds behind the track players, betfair video can be 2 seconds behind and ATR is miles behind . so there are traders with a big advantage time wise but it doesnt mean it cant be done in running without those advantages as clearly it can :D
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ShaunWhite
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1 to 1.5 secs delay on RUK? It's been 6 since they went HD.

Yes Angel, everyone has the same 2sec bet placement delay imposed by BF.
bobs71
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This guy apparently bets professionally in-running from home

http://www.starsportsbet.co.uk/meeting-matthew-mantle/
LinusP
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Angelbaby wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:43 pm
But we all have a 2 second delay on in play bets is that correct?
It’s 1 second for horse racing.
Bluesky
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:08 am
1 to 1.5 secs delay on RUK? It's been 6 since they went HD.
Is this via an internet connection? I find RUK via a sat feed and a SkyQ box is often around 0.5 to 1 second quicker than BF. The race goes off on the TV and BF goes in play up to a second or so later. I have also noticed that if the line up pictures on RUK suddenly start to show the fav right at the back, it will take 2 or 3 seconds sometimes a bit more before the favs price starts to drift. This only happens with RUK, ATR on the other hand are often several seconds behind, so in a similar situation, if you notice on ATR a fav right at the back of the line up. The price of the fav will already have drifted on BF.
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