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Derek27 wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 9:21 pm
Betfair reduction factors will be slightly different to the bookie's rule 4 as they're based on different prices.
Ah, OK. Thanks.
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spreadbetting wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 6:35 pm

Cross matching gets switched off once there's a non runner, as soon as that's removed from the market it gets turned back on again. If it's too late to remove it before the market goes inpaly then XM is also switched off for the in running market.

Reduction factors don't apply to in play bets so you can imagine it's very easy to manipulate the percentages and betfair would get completely stuffed if they left it on in running :)
I was supposing that was the case. my observations are that even if a runner is not withdrawn the market is much steadier now then it used to be a few years ago. either the market progressed or they improved their algorithms.
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gutuami wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 11:30 pm
spreadbetting wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 6:35 pm

Cross matching gets switched off once there's a non runner, as soon as that's removed from the market it gets turned back on again. If it's too late to remove it before the market goes inpaly then XM is also switched off for the in running market.

Reduction factors don't apply to in play bets so you can imagine it's very easy to manipulate the percentages and betfair would get completely stuffed if they left it on in running :)
I was supposing that was the case. my observations are that even if a runner is not withdrawn the market is much steadier now then it used to be a few years ago. either the market progressed or they improved their algorithms.

I have bots that see thru the non runners when they're left in the market and it's surprising how steady the over/underround is, I'd hazard a guess there are people playing with no delay in those in running markets
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spreadbetting wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 11:41 pm
gutuami wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 11:30 pm
spreadbetting wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 6:35 pm
..... I'd hazard a guess there are people playing with no delay in those in running markets
Betfair themselves! :D
Incidentally; Why not have a condition in Automation to check if XM is on?
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PeterLe wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 9:31 am
spreadbetting wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 11:41 pm
gutuami wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 11:30 pm


Betfair themselves! :D
Incidentally; Why not have a condition in Automation to check if XM is on?
whether xm is on or off it doesn't matter too much when the market is tight enough not to create opportunities.
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So, is there a way in automation for knowing there has been a withdrawal ?
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Check the number of runners in the market then use that and the current runner count to see if there is a difference.
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Euler wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 8:29 pm
Check the number of runners in the market then use that and the current runner count to see if there is a difference.
Hi,

I see Number of selections condition but current runner count ?

Thanks,
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