Hi everyone,
does anyone know this service? racestatsapp.com
I know many of you run their own data, I am not a data person and so look for some help to improve my trading.
Thanks a lot in advance and have good week everyone.
racestatsapp
i went through the trial version, during the lockdown.
iam not sure if its against the rules of this forum ,to elaborate further, defarmation risks.
all what i can say is , that software allows you to connect to betangel, they have a video on it , so i guess there are is a silent group amongst us that use it.
the whole idea is anchored on SP.you live / die by it.
you can play any race in the last 10 yrs ,and see who won and lost depednding on their SP.a simulator of some sorts.
i found it helpfull as a market research tool , questions of how profitable is laying at 1.01 and how long does it take to break even or even which years was it profitable to back at 1.05 etc.....
i would say, its a supplimentary tool if you are doing more than punting. you can use it to find your trades e.g back/lay candidates, potential drifters and steamers(dobbs) all based on the FInal SP.therefore its primarily geared towards an inplay strategy and value betting.
as for trading and anything else ,nothing comes close to what bet angel offers,
free basic betangel trader, free betdaq, free courses, free mentorship including this forum ,you tube , blog, GUAURDIAN, inplay tool, advanced dutching tool,soccer mystic, tennisplayer.....and so on,for a price of a cup of coffee .
if you master bet angel , you can then go ahead and use your profits to add on to the research tool.
remember , the grass always looks greener on the other side, until you cross the river.
Take this as an opinion, and not the gopel trueth.
Hi My name is Mike O'Neil and I made RSA. Thank you for your answer decomez6 there is a bit more to RSA than that but at least you looked and get the basics, was analyser included at the time you took the trial? and as for Anbell typical response response from the uneducated.
RaceStatsApp is not a competitor of BetAngel, many of our users use RaceStatsApp to know what to do for the race/day/week and use Bet Angel to place their bets.
RaceStatsApp is not a competitor of BetAngel, many of our users use RaceStatsApp to know what to do for the race/day/week and use Bet Angel to place their bets.
Hi Mike,
This looks like a piece of work.
I signed up for the free trial - I can't immediately find a help section or user guide.
I have looked at a few of the youtube guides, but think you might find it useful to prepare basic searches, and show a user
exactly how to use the tool.
Apologies if that has been done.
This looks like a piece of work.
I signed up for the free trial - I can't immediately find a help section or user guide.
I have looked at a few of the youtube guides, but think you might find it useful to prepare basic searches, and show a user
exactly how to use the tool.
Apologies if that has been done.
hi ,GBDundee wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:06 pmHi My name is Mike O'Neil and I made RSA. Thank you for your answer decomez6 there is a bit more to RSA than that but at least you looked and get the basics, was analyser included at the time you took the trial? and as for Anbell typical response response from the uneducated.
RaceStatsApp is not a competitor of BetAngel, many of our users use RaceStatsApp to know what to do for the race/day/week and use Bet Angel to place their bets.
not at all Mike , i actually wanted to join after my trial ,you adviced me to wait for the update .since then i have been very bussy looking into bet angel , and ,i surely know i can use the services you offer in combination with other strategies that work very well in bet angel.
i dont see how anyone can talkdown your work , it speaks for itself.
as for me , i can always learn standing on the shoulders of giants,
and as soon as my basic set up is ready , i dont see any reason as to why not to join.
I have watched the first 2 youtube videos and they show a great deal of preparation and thought.
Am interested enough to give it a few months - for those not able to download/organize their own racing data, this might be exceptionally useful.
Am interested enough to give it a few months - for those not able to download/organize their own racing data, this might be exceptionally useful.
It won't improve your trading - its for punters. Its not about price movement or anything like it. Its a large database of past BSPs and wether they've won or lost that can be filtered in various ways to identify runners at odds that are 'due'. If you have a bad week punting on things that are 'due' this week they'll be identified as even more 'due' next week.
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BSP is flawed though, isn't it? It never represents true SP, just SP after the break is already known. So it's skewed to horses that have got a good break, there is no information in that so you can't look at that historically.
I agree, the software does that and more. But I guess his question was about those people who don’t have data bases. It’s like throwing a dart in a dark room , you have no historical background on how certain backed horses behaved on the same track. . The software gives you an opportunity to see the possible outcome when people back a certain horse in the same race track and at the same time stamp in the last 10 yrs. it then condenses it into the last 10 days which is displayed to give you a visual look as well as a percentage possibility of the fav or an outsider winning.Jukebox wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:51 amIt won't improve your trading - its for punters. Its not about price movement or anything like it. Its a large database of past BSPs and wether they've won or lost that can be filtered in various ways to identify runners at odds that are 'due'. If you have a bad week punting on things that are 'due' this week they'll be identified as even more 'due' next week.
Use this with the form lines provided by bet angel and then monitor the behaviour of traders on the ladder , then you have a better idea of which horse is likely to give you a good back2lay or a dobb.
Mike advocates for prudency and not to play all races but meticulously choose your races depending on your strategy, for example if you want to make a bot , then you need more information not less, and the software gives you an extra layer that can be used independently or individually to make a bot.
It is also very useful in calculating long term return on investment (ROI), through a losers data base which not only tells you what you could end up making if you backed the losers but also what the opposing outcome would have yielded....
I mean I can carry on , but i I don’t want people to think I am carrying a brief For mike and doing his bidding,
But I can confidently say, there are many ways to loose , and, equally many ways to win. Just because I find an edge that doesn’t disqualify your edge.
Clearly he'll mark you as educated. I'll happily join the list of forum members he's dismissed as "uneducated".decomez6 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:27 amI agree, the software does that and more. But I guess his question was about those people who don’t have data bases. It’s like throwing a dart in a dark room , you have no historical background on how certain backed horses behaved on the same track. . The software gives you an opportunity to see the possible outcome when people back a certain horse in the same race track and at the same time stamp in the last 10 yrs. it then condenses it into the last 10 days which is displayed to give you a visual look as well as a percentage possibility of the fav or an outsider winning.Jukebox wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:51 amIt won't improve your trading - its for punters. Its not about price movement or anything like it. Its a large database of past BSPs and wether they've won or lost that can be filtered in various ways to identify runners at odds that are 'due'. If you have a bad week punting on things that are 'due' this week they'll be identified as even more 'due' next week.
Use this with the form lines provided by bet angel and then monitor the behaviour of traders on the ladder , then you have a better idea of which horse is likely to give you a good back2lay or a dobb.
Mike advocates for prudency and not to play all races but meticulously choose your races depending on your strategy, for example if you want to make a bot , then you need more information not less, and the software gives you an extra layer that can be used independently or individually to make a bot.
It is also very useful in calculating long term return on investment (ROI), through a losers data base which not only tells you what you could end up making if you backed the losers but also what the opposing outcome would have yielded....
I mean I can carry on , but i I don’t want people to think I am carrying a brief For mike and doing his bidding,
But I can confidently say, there are many ways to loose , and, equally many ways to win. Just because I find an edge that doesn’t disqualify your edge.
What kind of education? Gamblers education?traders education?Jukebox wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:50 amClearly he'll mark you as educated. I'll happily join the list of forum members he's dismissed as "uneducated".decomez6 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:27 amI agree, the software does that and more. But I guess his question was about those people who don’t have data bases. It’s like throwing a dart in a dark room , you have no historical background on how certain backed horses behaved on the same track. . The software gives you an opportunity to see the possible outcome when people back a certain horse in the same race track and at the same time stamp in the last 10 yrs. it then condenses it into the last 10 days which is displayed to give you a visual look as well as a percentage possibility of the fav or an outsider winning.Jukebox wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:51 am
It won't improve your trading - its for punters. Its not about price movement or anything like it. Its a large database of past BSPs and wether they've won or lost that can be filtered in various ways to identify runners at odds that are 'due'. If you have a bad week punting on things that are 'due' this week they'll be identified as even more 'due' next week.
Use this with the form lines provided by bet angel and then monitor the behaviour of traders on the ladder , then you have a better idea of which horse is likely to give you a good back2lay or a dobb.
Mike advocates for prudency and not to play all races but meticulously choose your races depending on your strategy, for example if you want to make a bot , then you need more information not less, and the software gives you an extra layer that can be used independently or individually to make a bot.
It is also very useful in calculating long term return on investment (ROI), through a losers data base which not only tells you what you could end up making if you backed the losers but also what the opposing outcome would have yielded....
I mean I can carry on , but i I don’t want people to think I am carrying a brief For mike and doing his bidding,
But I can confidently say, there are many ways to loose , and, equally many ways to win. Just because I find an edge that doesn’t disqualify your edge.
Cos you seem to dismiss gambling as pure mug , but that’s the reason not many people can do it. I respect anyone who goes into a casino and come out on top , year in year out. These so called mugs surely posses something I don’t and if that’s not education then please sign me in on your list.
Einstein once said, the only way to come out on top of a roulette table is to rob it.( correct me if am wrong)
Would you not want to know of someone who spent their adulthood working on an idea that Einstein found so evasive.
I am sure Anbell is not un educated and you are definitely not . I just think critical thinking and criticism is great when done from an informed position.
Just look at my posts then you will see my ignorance popping out , so iam learning and you are one of my many teachers.
Great that you called that out, I also didn't like that about Mike but I guess that's the way people behave when they're defensive.Jukebox wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:50 amClearly he'll mark you as educated. I'll happily join the list of forum members he's dismissed as "uneducated".decomez6 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:27 amI agree, the software does that and more. But I guess his question was about those people who don’t have data bases. It’s like throwing a dart in a dark room , you have no historical background on how certain backed horses behaved on the same track. . The software gives you an opportunity to see the possible outcome when people back a certain horse in the same race track and at the same time stamp in the last 10 yrs. it then condenses it into the last 10 days which is displayed to give you a visual look as well as a percentage possibility of the fav or an outsider winning.Jukebox wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:51 am
It won't improve your trading - its for punters. Its not about price movement or anything like it. Its a large database of past BSPs and wether they've won or lost that can be filtered in various ways to identify runners at odds that are 'due'. If you have a bad week punting on things that are 'due' this week they'll be identified as even more 'due' next week.
Use this with the form lines provided by bet angel and then monitor the behaviour of traders on the ladder , then you have a better idea of which horse is likely to give you a good back2lay or a dobb.
Mike advocates for prudency and not to play all races but meticulously choose your races depending on your strategy, for example if you want to make a bot , then you need more information not less, and the software gives you an extra layer that can be used independently or individually to make a bot.
It is also very useful in calculating long term return on investment (ROI), through a losers data base which not only tells you what you could end up making if you backed the losers but also what the opposing outcome would have yielded....
I mean I can carry on , but i I don’t want people to think I am carrying a brief For mike and doing his bidding,
But I can confidently say, there are many ways to loose , and, equally many ways to win. Just because I find an edge that doesn’t disqualify your edge.
I'll have to join the list of uneducated also. I did take a look when the thread started but didn't want to talk negatively about somebody else's hard work, especially when I couldn't create the same myself. Personally, I couldn't see where I could find use for it but thats not to say others can't.
Hi Folks I didn't come in here to listen to all the typical BS from the ignorant.
I came to answer a question posed by a genuine individual who wanted to know about RSA.
Cmuddle look forward to seeing you back one day soon.
Until I see the next BA user pose a genuine RSA question I wish you all farewell,
and for the uneducated https://apps.betfair.com/learning/
I came to answer a question posed by a genuine individual who wanted to know about RSA.
Cmuddle look forward to seeing you back one day soon.
Until I see the next BA user pose a genuine RSA question I wish you all farewell,
and for the uneducated https://apps.betfair.com/learning/