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Trader Pat
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GBDundee wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:31 pm
. ..don't need to pander to the lazy.
I really hope the app works out for you but if it doesn't you have a career as a personal trainer
Jukebox
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GBDundee wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:31 pm
Naffman wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:54 pm
ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:36 pm

:) I suspect the customer support might be a bit feisty. This is the most antagonistic sales pitch I've ever seen.
"hello sir would you like to buy XYZ"
"not really, I don't like it"
"fvck off then"
:lol:
Certainty is..if you ask a question that a videos and/or manual answers. I have made a program to make users money, see twitter or ask someone that uses it, ..don't need to pander to the lazy. You want to make money learn the apps.
I've seen the videos and read the twitter. Losing favorites are celebrated as if it is a victory for the app! You created a great, updated database which that can be modelled and 'what iffed' to your hearts content and even identify runners and races that fit your selected filters for the day. You didn't rest there though - instead you encourage and sell to users the idea they should be betting by pursuing reversion to mean identified by the app - even specific enough to identify when a 4th favorite is 'due' to win. Why did you need to go there? Maybe I can guess. Whatever the reason you seem to have made that the selling point. You could have basked in the recommendations of those that had their victories using your app to model the data and humbly responded that your app helped them get to the data they wanted. The very first comment you made on this thread (that was incidently created by a forum member asking whether it would help his trading) was to insult one of our members. In fact every one of your posts on this thread has included an insult. You could have taken that opportunity and used it very differently. You've even been extended some advice and invited to give some examples by Euler - and instead this is how you respond.
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GBDundee
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Jukebox wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:06 pm
GBDundee wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:31 pm
Naffman wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:54 pm


:lol:
Certainty is..if you ask a question that a videos and/or manual answers. I have made a program to make users money, see twitter or ask someone that uses it, ..don't need to pander to the lazy. You want to make money learn the apps.
I've seen the videos and read the twitter. Losing favorites are celebrated as if it is a victory for the app! You created a great, updated database which that can be modelled and 'what iffed' to your hearts content and even identify runners and races that fit your selected filters for the day. You didn't rest there though - instead you encourage and sell to users the idea they should be betting by pursuing reversion to mean identified by the app - even specific enough to identify when a 4th favorite is 'due' to win. Why did you need to go there? Maybe I can guess. Whatever the reason you seem to have made that the selling point. You could have basked in the recommendations of those that had their victories using your app to model the data and humbly responded that your app helped them get to the data they wanted. The very first comment you made on this thread (that was incidently created by a forum member asking whether it would help his trading) was to insult one of our members. In fact every one of your posts on this thread has included an insult. You could have taken that opportunity and used it very differently. You've even been extended some advice and invited to give some examples by Euler - and instead this is how you respond.
Blah blah same same same.."seen the videos and read the twitter ..and still obviously have no Idea all RSA does.. the time you spent commenting in this post you could have been experts.
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GBDundee wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:51 pm
Jukebox wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:06 pm
GBDundee wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:31 pm

Certainty is..if you ask a question that a videos and/or manual answers. I have made a program to make users money, see twitter or ask someone that uses it, ..don't need to pander to the lazy. You want to make money learn the apps.
I've seen the videos and read the twitter. Losing favorites are celebrated as if it is a victory for the app! You created a great, updated database which that can be modelled and 'what iffed' to your hearts content and even identify runners and races that fit your selected filters for the day. You didn't rest there though - instead you encourage and sell to users the idea they should be betting by pursuing reversion to mean identified by the app - even specific enough to identify when a 4th favorite is 'due' to win. Why did you need to go there? Maybe I can guess. Whatever the reason you seem to have made that the selling point. You could have basked in the recommendations of those that had their victories using your app to model the data and humbly responded that your app helped them get to the data they wanted. The very first comment you made on this thread (that was incidently created by a forum member asking whether it would help his trading) was to insult one of our members. In fact every one of your posts on this thread has included an insult. You could have taken that opportunity and used it very differently. You've even been extended some advice and invited to give some examples by Euler - and instead this is how you respond.
Blah blah same same same.."seen the videos and read the twitter ..and still obviously have no Idea all RSA does.. the time you spent commenting in this post you could have been experts.
quit the booze!!
Anbell
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jimibt wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:10 pm
quit the booze!!
But not just yet...
obitus
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I gave the app a trial a few months ago, there is a lot of data but its not for me as I prefer cold trading.

By any chance are you the time of first goal game state guy VoteSotdoc on twitter?
Jukebox
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GBDundee wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:51 pm
Blah blah same same same.."seen the videos and read the twitter ..and still obviously have no Idea all RSA does.. the time you spent commenting in this post you could have been experts.
You've misunderstood. I've said you've built a great app - its just that you slathered it in snake oil. All thats missing is the Martingale setter (please excuse me if I've missed it)
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Naffman
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Jukebox wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:05 am
GBDundee wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:51 pm
Blah blah same same same.."seen the videos and read the twitter ..and still obviously have no Idea all RSA does.. the time you spent commenting in this post you could have been experts.
You've misunderstood. I've said you've built a great app - its just that you slathered it in snake oil. All thats missing is the Martingale setter (please excuse me if I've missed it)
Exactly, if it's that good let the app speak for itself, the more you try and sell it the worse it looks
bondleo777
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To say a fav will lose due to previous odds and have no weight for trainer performance etc is weird.

If it did work then it would a much bigger twitter support than it does.
jamesg46
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bondleo777 wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:35 pm
To say a fav will lose due to previous odds and have no weight for trainer performance etc is weird.

If it did work then it would a much bigger twitter support than it does.
Imo (which isnt necessarily right) the structure of it is built around market efficiency & reversion to efficiency. I'd imagine a system could be built with structured criteria but personally I couldn't find a use for it, or maybe I couldn't be bothered.

As Euler said,
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invisiblelayer
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bondleo777 wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:35 pm
To say a fav will lose due to previous odds and have no weight for trainer performance etc is weird.

If it did work then it would a much bigger twitter support than it does.
Just look at the wrong faces promoting it on Twitter. I wasted a few minutes looking at this the other day. Never heard of them until reading on here, why would anyone use that over all the other trading software available? As for the data, it's meaningless junk. I'm not sure proform, flatstats or ratingtheraces will be running scared anytime soon. Utter tripe to my eye
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invisiblelayer wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:27 pm
bondleo777 wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:35 pm
To say a fav will lose due to previous odds and have no weight for trainer performance etc is weird.

If it did work then it would a much bigger twitter support than it does.
Just look at the wrong faces promoting it on Twitter. I wasted a few minutes looking at this the other day. Never heard of them until reading on here, why would anyone use that over all the other trading software available? As for the data, it's meaningless junk. I'm not sure proform, flatstats or ratingtheraces will be running scared anytime soon. Utter tripe to my eye
i've got a feeling the fan and the shizz are going to be re-acquainted dramatically some time soon -lol
jamesg46
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jimibt wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:36 pm
invisiblelayer wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:27 pm
bondleo777 wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:35 pm
To say a fav will lose due to previous odds and have no weight for trainer performance etc is weird.

If it did work then it would a much bigger twitter support than it does.
Just look at the wrong faces promoting it on Twitter. I wasted a few minutes looking at this the other day. Never heard of them until reading on here, why would anyone use that over all the other trading software available? As for the data, it's meaningless junk. I'm not sure proform, flatstats or ratingtheraces will be running scared anytime soon. Utter tripe to my eye
i've got a feeling the fan and the shizz are going to be re-acquainted dramatically some time soon -lol
The part where someone asks Mike why he wasted 13 years of his life might be the trigger. I'm sure a half decent software developer could of saved him 13 years.
Emmson
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Not investigated the product as not my thing but struck by the bad attitude, how is that the way to convert sceptics?
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