Betfair Down / Betfair site crash

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sniffer66
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:44 am
sniffer66 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:40 am
Admittedly, they are rumours but I've seen some chat on various FB groups and Telegram that placing trades on the Exchange and bets on the same market in Sportsbook can result in an instaban on the Exchange.
I know of one poster I used to chat with regularly who had an instant ban and was doing nothing suspect but the above. That was all we could pin it down to.

Anyone confiirm or deny ? Was just wondering what the effect might be of an API crash and covering the bet on Sportsbook...
Are you talking about being banned from the Sportsbook? If you win money on the Sportsbook you will be banned like any other bookie would do. It won't necessarily be because you're arbing and trading the same market.
No, the Exchange. I know a long time trader who was banned on the Exchange and couldnt get an answer why from BF. The only thing we could work out he was doing was trading\betting the same markets on each.
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sniffer66 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:50 am
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:44 am
sniffer66 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:40 am
Admittedly, they are rumours but I've seen some chat on various FB groups and Telegram that placing trades on the Exchange and bets on the same market in Sportsbook can result in an instaban on the Exchange.
I know of one poster I used to chat with regularly who had an instant ban and was doing nothing suspect but the above. That was all we could pin it down to.

Anyone confiirm or deny ? Was just wondering what the effect might be of an API crash and covering the bet on Sportsbook...
Are you talking about being banned from the Sportsbook? If you win money on the Sportsbook you will be banned like any other bookie would do. It won't necessarily be because you're arbing and trading the same market.
No, the Exchange. I know a long time trader who was banned on the Exchange and couldnt get an answer why from BF. The only thing we could work out he was doing was trading\betting the same markets on each.
I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be the reason as I and many arbers have done the same thing but only got banned from the Sportsbook. Betfair seem to have a complete inability to communicate their actions with their customers. It might even have been in error.
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:57 am
sniffer66 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:50 am
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:44 am

Are you talking about being banned from the Sportsbook? If you win money on the Sportsbook you will be banned like any other bookie would do. It won't necessarily be because you're arbing and trading the same market.
No, the Exchange. I know a long time trader who was banned on the Exchange and couldnt get an answer why from BF. The only thing we could work out he was doing was trading\betting the same markets on each.
I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be the reason as I and many arbers have done the same thing but only got banned from the Sportsbook. Betfair seem to have a complete inability to communicate their actions with their customers. It might even have been in error.
Yeah, he got banned via the security team. Had loads of issues cashing out his bank. Then appealed via CS and they couldnt/wouldnt get an answer out of security. Like dealing with a bookie....
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LeTiss
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I've never heard of anyone being banned from the Exhchange, UNLESS they had reason to believe he was avoiding Premium Charges
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:32 am
Bookmarking this 'Betfair Down/Betfair Site Crash' thread has saved me on several occasions
https://www.betfairtradingblog.com/betf ... age-alert/
Thanks for the tip.
Kai wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:43 am

Better get used to it quickly :) The exchange barely works nowadays.
Yes, I noticed this thread has more than 500 pages. Looks promising!
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Derek27
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LeTiss wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:32 pm
I've never heard of anyone being banned from the Exhchange, UNLESS they had reason to believe he was avoiding Premium Charges
I think for PC avoidance they just snatch the money out of one of your accounts. They have banned people for excessive use of the API and can ban penny shavers. Suspected money laundering or other illegal activity is another possibility.
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gazuty
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The main betfair site seems to be struggling, not fully loading, can't log in, 13:27 Sydney time.

Temporary, its back, 13:28.

But I can't see on the desktop how to get to p/l page, move over to my phone where it is bookmarked.
Nero Tulip
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Anyone else having issues ? Having a few bets disappear when placed through BetAngel... not tried on the site. Score updating on this tennis match has been stop start..
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Derek27
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Time to get out the safety car.
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to75ne
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Nero Tulip wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:42 pm
Anyone else having issues ? Having a few bets disappear when placed through BetAngel... not tried on the site. Score updating on this tennis match has been stop start..
streaming feels like it is dragging a heavy weight behind it (if that makes sense), poling seem ok. Had this on and off yesterday as well.
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Slow for me as of 10mins ago
Nero Tulip
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Cheers guys. Placing bets through the site seems ok, through BA is not working for me currently...

Updating tennis model manually and placing bets through the website like its 2004.
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aperson
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bets weren't placing and couldn't cancel unmatched one's for a bit
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napshnap
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Yes, a few days ago (23rd) they changed their good old betting IP addresses to crappy Cloudflare ones and all that crap started: timeouts, errors, lags (almost doubled from ~28 to 50ms). How long will it take them to understand what they have done and return back to good old stable IP addresses?
Getting sick of their changes, to be honest. Best thing they can do is do not touch what is already working.
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to75ne
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poling as just locked up.
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