Football trading : Soccer mystic odds

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Angelbaby
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Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:37 am

I am looking at a match in soccer mystic and looking at laying draw strategy. The draw is 3.5 currently on the chart it shows the odds starting out at 3.0 I am I missing something (probably) shouldn't it replicate the current odds at betfair?

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Dallas
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Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:10 am

Until the strength indicator at the top right has all bars lit then the market is not formed enough for SM give an accurate prediction

Angelbaby
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Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:18 am

So what I am seeing is soccer mystic's predicted odds not the actual odds on betfair and it doesn't match because volume is low?

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ShaunWhite
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Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:14 am

What does it take to get 5 bars? This one's got £197,697

3.5 vs 3.9 on the Draw seems a bit far out. I wondered why doesn't it just use the current prices?
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ShaunWhite
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Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:56 pm

£1/2m traded now and it's dropped to 3 bars, wagwan?

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Dallas
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Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:01 pm

ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:14 am
What does it take to get 5 bars? This one's got £197,697

3.5 vs 3.9 on the Draw seems a bit far out. I wondered why doesn't it just use the current prices?
Soccer Mystic requires the Match Odds, Correct Score, and Total Goals all to be available for it to be able to make predictions, only when these markets are then formed enough will it show the full 5 bars on the signal strength indicator.

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ShaunWhite
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Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:19 pm

Match odds 500k
Correct score 55k
Total goals.....150 quid.

I guess that explains it. Any idea what 'enough' is?

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Dallas
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Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:42 pm

Its the book% rather than volume that determines when a market is 'formed'

JOHNNYPLUMSTEAD
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Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:04 pm

I am using soccer mystic. yes normally 4 green lights but it still seems way out. Is it meant to predict concrete prices during in play? Quick example Rennes take the lead early tonight away at Lyon it states market at 4.9 in fact trading at 3.1 for the draw ( don't worry i got out!) £700,000 in turnover not massive, however Newcastle taking lead today against Man Utd it was way out and there were millions turned over : Why is it so far out?

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Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:16 pm

Liquidity on the core markets that seed it and falling so we are looking at a new model at some point this year that doesn't need those seed values. Inplay is getting quite barren apart from on the televised matches.

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