Football trading : Match fixing

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Kafkaesque
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Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:30 pm

Best I can tell from a search there's a few previous threads on this. They're however on specific matches.

I thought, it would be interesting and beneficial to have a more general debate on the issue, as it can be costly affair to be on the wrong side of a trade with this issue.

What does the threat of match fixing do to people's of countries, league and/or matches to trade in?

Which other precautions do people take?

The obvious answer is clearly to stick to the biggest leagues with the biggest player salaries etc. Other leagues do however have an appeal to me from time to time, with the higher volatility offering up some good spots. Even if it's more of high risk and high reward approach.

My rule of thump - apart from looking at the size of the league in terms of money, prestige etc. - is increased caution and observation of weird-looking shifts both before and after entering the market the further east you go.

Also would be brilliant if we could share knowledge of potential "stay-away" leagues and teams, both from media reports and personal experience. Preferably without clogging the thread too much with too much on specific matches, but rather a remark afterwards, if that makes sense.

Even if I think few football traders will have missed it, but I'll lead off with Sweden apparently having something of a problem with match fixing. Apart the Gothenburg match being called off in the top tier a year or so ago, there are (or were at least?) several teams in the second tier where even the Swedish state bookie, Svenska Spil refuses/refused to offer odds.

max_usted
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Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:31 pm

Kafkaesque wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:30 pm
Best I can tell from a search there's a few previous threads on this. They're however on specific matches.

I thought, it would be interesting and beneficial to have a more general debate on the issue, as it can be costly affair to be on the wrong side of a trade with this issue.

What does the threat of match fixing do to people's of countries, league and/or matches to trade in?

Which other precautions do people take?

The obvious answer is clearly to stick to the biggest leagues with the biggest player salaries etc. Other leagues do however have an appeal to me from time to time, with the higher volatility offering up some good spots. Even if it's more of high risk and high reward approach.

My rule of thump - apart from looking at the size of the league in terms of money, prestige etc. - is increased caution and observation of weird-looking shifts both before and after entering the market the further east you go.

Also would be brilliant if we could share knowledge of potential "stay-away" leagues and teams, both from media reports and personal experience. Preferably without clogging the thread too much with too much on specific matches, but rather a remark afterwards, if that makes sense.

Even if I think few football traders will have missed it, but I'll lead off with Sweden apparently having something of a problem with match fixing. Apart the Gothenburg match being called off in the top tier a year or so ago, there are (or were at least?) several teams in the second tier where even the Swedish state bookie, Svenska Spil refuses/refused to offer odds.
My understanding is that becomes more of an issue in end-of-season games in some leagues (Italy, Spain, Brazil). I remember reading about a Bot which you can pay for a subscription to which basically looks for very unusual odds and gives you alerts where it finds them, some/a minority of these likely being for fixed outcomes.

convoysur-2
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:51 pm

looks very suspect
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:53 pm

seen the 333k trying to get matched before the off,just thought it was a mad man
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:56 pm

What a surprise, it ended 1-1 with an OG 11 mins from time

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Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:09 pm

and did you see the penalty missed in 88 min

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Thu May 17, 2018 9:55 pm

Some weird shit happening in the liberdad game -ko- 11.15
73% of money traded on the draw--0-0 and 1-1 prices look suspect
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Thu May 17, 2018 10:09 pm

so the 4 in this group are playing tonight,libertad and tucuman have the most points -how do i find out how many go through from this group is it normally 1 or 2 teams go through from group-i have no idea im not a football guy really-but if its the 2 at the top going through it would seem like they have an agreement to have a draw.
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Thu May 17, 2018 10:11 pm

ok i see it now on the bottom -the green box says advances to next round,,so libertad and tucuman are already qualified for next round

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Thu May 17, 2018 10:27 pm

convoysur-2 wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:11 pm
ok i see it now on the bottom -the green box says advances to next round,,so libertad and tucuman are already qualified for next round
Hmm nice spot! See how this one goes.

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