DOBing - Back & Lay at 50% Guardian Automation Bot

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Dallas
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Once you have them set how you want on the main Bet Angel screen click
Settings > Save settings
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eminbe
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Thanks for your help and support.

I am having this problem in this automation bot:

When its going to green up and places the lay most of the time it doesn't get matched and I end up losing. I am not sure if there is a fix setting to do in bet angel or is it my internet connection I am with Virgin 150MB or maybe I need to use the bet angel VPS.

Please help.
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It wont make any difference if your internet connection is a 2mb or 200mb its your ping that matters not your bandwidth (the lower your ping the better).

Although once a bet is triggered and in the market waiting to be matched your connection no longer matters at all even losing complete connection it wont make any difference to how quick or if your green up bet is matched this is solely down to the market.

Another option would be to take a smaller profit either by triggering the green earlier or issuing another green up if the 1st is not matched immedietly.

Also worth remembering if using stakes below £2 you will have a 2 second in-play delay rather than 1 second on the placing of all bets including green ups and the price can move a long way in the oppisite direction in this time.
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Thanks for your feedback..

I select the markets and horses the night before, I click Save Market in Guardian. When I load Guardian the following day the markets are there but not with the horses I selected.
Is there a way to save the horses too?

Dallas wrote:Also worth remembering if using stakes below £2 you will have a 2 second in-play delay rather than 1 second on the placing of all bets including green ups and the price can move a long way in the oppisite direction in this time.
Is there any particular reason for that?
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If you apply rules to markets in guardian then shut it down you need to re-add those rule the next time you turn it on - it would be completly dangerous if you where to apply dozens of different rules to markets then turn off BA/guardian (therefore rules are not running) then when you trun back on some could be mid market and you would have rules firing in bets all over the place.

The delay is something Betfair impose on all bets placed in-play, the amount of time differs from sport to sport, horse racing its 1sec, football is between 5-8 secs depending on the location of the match.
Its to try and level the playing field for all those who are not trading from the venue itsself
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Dallas wrote:The delay is something Betfair impose on all bets placed in-play, the amount of time differs from sport to sport, horse racing its 1sec, football is between 5-8 secs depending on the location of the match.
Its to try and level the playing field for all those who are not trading from the venue itsself
Sorry my question was why is there a 2 second delay for stakes below £2?
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To be able to submit bets below the Betfair minimum of £2 Bet Angel first has to do it using 2 bets first by placing the min £2 @ 1000.0 it then cancels the excess to leave the amount required and then moves that down to the odds you requested each of these incurs the 1 sec delay so in total it takes 2 secs rather than 1 sec to get a stake below £2 to the odds requested.
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Hi dallas, thanks again - great stuff,
Is their a way in which i can place the bet at BSP. Obviously in the races that are slightly delayed they price can drift and we lose vital ticks?
Thanks again
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The BSP is only calculated at the actual off, but yes the rule be adapted to take this rather then the current odds 5 secs before the start.

Just make the following edits to the 'Back Nom 1' & 'Back Nom 2' rules types

Parameters tab
'Place at' Custom ticks above the best market price (and use about 10-20 ticks)

Then click the green plus icon in the top left corner of the rules editor to add an additional rule type and use

General tab
'Take SP on all unmatched Bets'
armed at 00:00:03 Before event start time
till 00:00:01 Before event start time

Trigger 2 times / wait 1 second before re-arming

That should do it for you
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great, thanks dallas
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Sorry Dallas, one more thing - if rather than a specfic profit we are looing for, i.e £10.00 - can this be edited to green up when for example last trading price is 15 ticks lower than SP?

I cant seem to find how this is possible?
Thanks again
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Yes this can be done and there is another bot in the shared files library that does it this way so would prob be better to use and edit this one slightly if your looking for ticks profit rather than a monetary value
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thanks again
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Hi Dallas

Is there a nomination for the stake value of each market like there is nominations for selection 1 and 2 in the automation tab in Guardian.
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eminbe wrote:Hi Dallas

Is there a nomination for the stake value of each market like there is nominations for selection 1 and 2 in the automation tab in Guardian.
You can set a stake value for each nominated selection within a rule if thats what you mean?

This is on the parameters tab of 'Back nom 1' and 'Back nom 2' rule types
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