Cheltenham Festival 2018

The sport of kings.
Post Reply
User avatar
ShaunWhite
Posts: 9731
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:42 am

I'm confused....is Douvan running again today? Is that because it was entered for both and because it fell and is ok, they're going in the 2nd one.
If it had run further on Wednesday (although it was only 4 out) would it not be running today?
Excuse my ignorance of how things work.
User avatar
Derek27
Posts: 23683
Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:44 am
Location: UK

ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:08 am
I'm confused....is Douvan running again today? Is that because it was entered for both and because it fell and is ok, they're going in the 2nd one.
If it had run further on Wednesday (although it was only 4 out) would it not be running today?
Excuse my ignorance of how things work.
They would have entered him in both to keep options open, but they would have to be completely bonkers to run such a good horse again, especially when he had such a long lay-off before today's Champion Chase.

Great shame that he fell when he was going so well - that would have made the finish interesting.

Edit: you may notice the back overround is 98%. Normally when a fancied runner isn't expected to run Betfair remove liability offset from the market and state that in the race-specific rules that you find on the website. They haven't done that for today's race.
User avatar
ShaunWhite
Posts: 9731
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:42 am

Thanks, if it's withdrawn I guess there'll be a deduction?
User avatar
Derek27
Posts: 23683
Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:44 am
Location: UK

There will, it's currently 20% but that can be adjusted.

I remember laying the field in the 2009 Irish Champion Stakes for a good green book, before realising that if Sea The Stars doesn't run (wasn't certain due to softish ground), smaller reduction factor than price indicated, I would have been left with a massive red book!

I try an avoid trading races where it's uncertain, not only whether a horse will run but what reduction factor will be applied. But on occasions you can use it to your advantage if you're fairly certain what RF will be applied and how much the prices will change.
User avatar
Derek27
Posts: 23683
Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:44 am
Location: UK

Seems I'm the only man in the world trading Cheltenham at 3:10 in the morning. Frustratingly have my closing trades at the front of every queue but everybody else has gone to bed. :(
User avatar
Naffman
Posts: 5644
Joined: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:46 am

Derek27 wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:14 am
Seems I'm the only man in the world trading Cheltenham at 3:10 in the morning. Frustratingly have my closing trades at the front of every queue but everybody else has gone to bed. :(
Yes I think you were :lol:

Lets hope Betdaq holds up a bit better today, will be keeping out late and just monitoring
User avatar
Dallas
Posts: 22731
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:57 pm
Location: Working From Home

I never thought the day would come I start treading carefully with BD around 3pm-4pm like I often do with BF on a Saturday
User avatar
Naffman
Posts: 5644
Joined: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:46 am

Glad Chapman slated the bookies, they need investigating firming Douvan just so they can get a bigger rule 4
User avatar
Derek27
Posts: 23683
Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:44 am
Location: UK

Don't know what price he was on Betfair but his RF remained unchanged at 20%.
User avatar
Naffman
Posts: 5644
Joined: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:46 am

Behaved there

Bit sad how we are scared BD might go down any minute :? :lol:
User avatar
Dallas
Posts: 22731
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:57 pm
Location: Working From Home

Good easy start to the day
User avatar
Derek27
Posts: 23683
Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:44 am
Location: UK

Who says Cheltenham markets don't move? Glenloe just dropped 5-6 ticks in a matter of seconds.
dragontrades
Posts: 1248
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:22 pm

That was a textbook market. Steady moves and then late corrections
iambic_pentameter
Posts: 443
Joined: Wed May 18, 2016 1:24 pm

Betdaq seemed quite choppy in the 1.45pm at Hexham.

Proceed with caution.
User avatar
Derek27
Posts: 23683
Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:44 am
Location: UK

Glencoe's been fun, the move just after Shattered Love went in was excessive.
Post Reply

Return to “Trading Horse racing”