Rats jumping ship Derek. And sadly Starmer is only too happy to provide a welcome. No way should she be in the Labour Party.Derek27 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 2:35 pmI don't think Sunak lied about his determination to stop the boats, he's absolutely determined, he's just deluded into thinking that "stopping the boats", i.e. bringing the numbers down to zero, is achievable.
What's bizarre is that Elphicke is towards the right of the Tory party, and now she's joined Labour!
I'm not even sure what happens to these defectors come election time, when the Labour party will already have genuine candidates to run for the seat.
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She and many others are stepping down at the next election. So it won’t really matter.greenmark wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 2:52 pmRats jumping ship Derek. And sadly Starmer is only too happy to provide a welcome. No way should she be in the Labour Party.Derek27 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 2:35 pmI don't think Sunak lied about his determination to stop the boats, he's absolutely determined, he's just deluded into thinking that "stopping the boats", i.e. bringing the numbers down to zero, is achievable.
What's bizarre is that Elphicke is towards the right of the Tory party, and now she's joined Labour!
I'm not even sure what happens to these defectors come election time, when the Labour party will already have genuine candidates to run for the seat.
Possibly. But for integrity of the Labour Party it looks bad. She epitomises what has gone wrong with politics. No principles as corrupt as her husband and Labour welcome her in! WTF!Archery1969 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 6:22 pmShe and many others are stepping down at the next election. So it won’t really matter.greenmark wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 2:52 pmRats jumping ship Derek. And sadly Starmer is only too happy to provide a welcome. No way should she be in the Labour Party.Derek27 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 2:35 pm
I don't think Sunak lied about his determination to stop the boats, he's absolutely determined, he's just deluded into thinking that "stopping the boats", i.e. bringing the numbers down to zero, is achievable.
What's bizarre is that Elphicke is towards the right of the Tory party, and now she's joined Labour!
I'm not even sure what happens to these defectors come election time, when the Labour party will already have genuine candidates to run for the seat.
It is a bit of a dilemma for Starmer. He doesn't want a right-wing MP in his ranks, but he can't turn down the opportunity to rub Sunak's nose in it.greenmark wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 9:02 pmPossibly. But for integrity of the Labour Party it looks bad. She epitomises what has gone wrong with politics. No principles as corrupt as her husband and Labour welcome her in! WTF!Archery1969 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 6:22 pmShe and many others are stepping down at the next election. So it won’t really matter.
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Yeah, I imagine the left of centre MPs will kick up a fuss big time.greenmark wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 9:02 pmPossibly. But for integrity of the Labour Party it looks bad. She epitomises what has gone wrong with politics. No principles as corrupt as her husband and Labour welcome her in! WTF!Archery1969 wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 6:22 pmShe and many others are stepping down at the next election. So it won’t really matter.