The Uk is and will be SH** in or out of the EU.
Why anyone cares anyway. There are negatives and positives on both sides and there will always be a blame in the future no matter the outcome.
Whats good for one is bad for another.
Does it really matter?
Why cant we just be more concerned on curing diseases, enjoying life and make world peace.
Too much wasted energy on crap like this.
Yawn.
EU Membership Referendum (Brexit)
well if most people felt like you, we may as well as all stay in bed whether you are for staying or leaving the eu.SeaHorseRacing wrote:The Uk is and will be SH** in or out of the EU.
Why anyone cares anyway. There are negatives and positives on both sides and there will always be a blame in the future no matter the outcome.
Whats good for one is bad for another.
Does it really matter?
Why cant we just be more concerned on curing diseases, enjoying life and make world peace.
Too much wasted energy on crap like this.
Yawn.
what a positive attitude you have.
pathetic
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to75ne wrote:well if most people felt like you, we may as well as all stay in bed whether you are for staying or leaving the eu.SeaHorseRacing wrote:The Uk is and will be SH** in or out of the EU.
Why anyone cares anyway. There are negatives and positives on both sides and there will always be a blame in the future no matter the outcome.
Whats good for one is bad for another.
Does it really matter?
Why cant we just be more concerned on curing diseases, enjoying life and make world peace.
Too much wasted energy on crap like this.
Yawn.
what a positive attitude you have.
pathetic
Positive attitude? Pathetic?
What because I believe there are more problems in this world then rather voting on the fact whether I think eastern Europeans should be able to work here care free. Or open the doors for Asian to walk through care free?
Whether I truly care if staying in the EU is going to protect me from terrorist attacks here in the Uk. You know because a total of less then 10 have here in over 10 years.
Yet how many people are dying from cancer?
How many children live in poverty? Here in the UK!
How many people will die this year in a car accident? Roughly 1,500. Same every year!
So this referendum bullshit is going to change this?
Will Children still starv and be abused no matter this outcome?
When are people like you going to realise politician only want whats best for them and there egos and careers.
Yet you think im pathetic and have a negative attitude because I feel people like you are wasting your time caring.
Ok ask yourself this before we joined the EU where were we?
Since we have been in the EU were are we?
The point is. I understand what lives about and its just a waste of time. 20 years time the same shit will happen again.
When are we going to learn form our mistakes.
What do you actually want from life? Because I'm pretty certain what ever happens come June the 23rd it will hardly change any of our lives.
There will be negatives and positives in both angles
Why do you really care.
Why does anyones?
Dont have the cheek to call me pathetic because of my values.
Just wish people would open there eyes. Just because the outcome you believe in is right in your head it will ruin the life of another. Its all one man for themself.
So i suggest you should live with your fingers crossed for the outcome you want to only change again in 5/10/20 years.
Or you can life your life in caring about what really matters. You dont have to vote to care about others and the world.
Dont worry because next year you can all discuss leaving the united nations next year and back to the Scottish referendum next year.
I just wish the racing wasnt overlapping so much today.
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I have something else to add.
Just discuss matters that really do matter.. Like England V Russia tonight!!!
I really hope ENGLAND do well in the euros..
But become the time "if" they win or progress further. The talk will only be about how England should not be allowed to defend their win in 2020 because they left the EU.
#ComeOnEngland
Just discuss matters that really do matter.. Like England V Russia tonight!!!
I really hope ENGLAND do well in the euros..
But become the time "if" they win or progress further. The talk will only be about how England should not be allowed to defend their win in 2020 because they left the EU.
#ComeOnEngland
ofcause it matters everything you claim to care about ie "curing cancer, children in poverty" and so on, require money and vast amounts of money to solve (even if such problems are solveable).
to have the resources to tackle such problems (and all the rest )requires a functioning economy. thats why the referendum matters. whatever the result the outcome will have a big effect on this country's economy (the very country you consider to be "shit"), and hence our abilty to compete in the world let alone "solve cancer" etc.
to have the resources to tackle such problems (and all the rest )requires a functioning economy. thats why the referendum matters. whatever the result the outcome will have a big effect on this country's economy (the very country you consider to be "shit"), and hence our abilty to compete in the world let alone "solve cancer" etc.
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to75ne wrote:ofcause it matters everything you claim to care about ie "curing cancer, children in poverty" and so on, require money and vast amounts of money to solve (even if such problems are solveable).
to have the resources to tackle such problems (and all the rest )requires a functioning economy. thats why the referendum matters. whatever the result the outcome will have a big effect on this country's economy (the very country you consider to be "shit"), and hence our abilty to compete in the world let alone "solve cancer" etc.
Thats what there making you out to think.
The point is we dont have to be in or out to do this.
Its cat and mouse. 15 years ago we joined now were probably leave.. then were join.
When are we going to realise this is not the way to resolve our problems.
Yes your right.. There is a more favorable outcome for our future.. however Blair effed up the NHS. Now we have Cameron. Its a never ending cycle of dividend.
We want a cure not a fix.
We need treatment not pain killers.
Its the same shit. Short term fixes. Short term Fixes. Short term fixes.
We will be in the same boat again. We defeated the IRS the taliban now its IS..
Its just a cycle.
We need real change and all this referendum does is short term fixes and makes one politician a twat and the other a Maggie thatcher.
We need real change. Use the money on this voting on the children or something!
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+1SeaHorseRacing wrote:Its the same shit. Short term fixes. Short term Fixes. Short term fixes.
mass immigration is a short-term fix for cheap labour and a long-term disaster. there's more to life than GDP.
EU is not Europe. The vote is to leave a politcal union, not Europe as a whole. There would be no valid reason for us not to continue playing in the Euro championships.SeaHorseRacing wrote:I have something else to add.
Just discuss matters that really do matter.. Like England V Russia tonight!!!
I really hope ENGLAND do well in the euros..
But become the time "if" they win or progress further. The talk will only be about how England should not be allowed to defend their win in 2020 because they left the EU.
#ComeOnEngland
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Leave seems to be building real momentum and now less than 2/1.
A MUST read article:
'Birth of superstate: Frederick Forsyth on how UNELECTED Brussels bureaucrats SEIZED power'
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/ ... ized-power
'Birth of superstate: Frederick Forsyth on how UNELECTED Brussels bureaucrats SEIZED power'
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/ ... ized-power
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there is a 25% increase here from british people applying for irish passports,
of course residents of northern ireland are automatically entitled to get one each as we see it as one island of ireland,
the rest of the number is made up uk residents claiming irish ancestors.
the way things are looking it might be a good time to get out the familly tree and become paddys,
Marc
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingne ... 39643.html
of course residents of northern ireland are automatically entitled to get one each as we see it as one island of ireland,
the rest of the number is made up uk residents claiming irish ancestors.
the way things are looking it might be a good time to get out the familly tree and become paddys,
Marc
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingne ... 39643.html
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if the UK leaves they'll be a lot less money to go round and Ireland will sooner or later become a net EU contributor, especially with poorer countries like Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Turkey queuing up to get a slice of free cake.convoysur-2 wrote:the way things are looking it might be a good time to get out the familly tree and become paddys
Donald Tusk... "As a historian I fear Brexit could be the beginning of the destruction of not only the EU but also Western political civilisation in its entirety," he told the German newspaper Bild.
And we thought Cameron was over egging it!
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ireland already is a net EU contributor, having paid 42% of banking debt for the entire eu,our asshole gouv calls it UNIVERSAL SERVICE CHARGE.TAX it comes straight out of our wages,on top of every other tax,and is not tax deductable,we have had mass immigration for the last 7 years and find it almost impossible to keep educated professionals in this country as the wages are absolute crap.i could go on for ever,ireland hasnt had it easy either,but we just keep taking it up the shit pipe without riots and strikes,riots are something i would be in favour of,i would burn every thing belonging to those thieving politicians,burn there houses and gang rape the assholes,all they do is lie and fill there own pockets,superfrank wrote:if the UK leaves they'll be a lot less money to go round and Ireland will sooner or later become a net EU contributor, especially with poorer countries like Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Turkey queuing up to get a slice of free cake.convoysur-2 wrote:the way things are looking it might be a good time to get out the familly tree and become paddys
Donald Tusk... "As a historian I fear Brexit could be the beginning of the destruction of not only the EU but also Western political civilisation in its entirety," he told the German newspaper Bild.
And we thought Cameron was over egging it!
Marc