Lay the Draw Guardian Automation Bot for Football

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Dallas
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Niko wrote:Having a bit of trouble greening out at £2.50 loss. I have added another rule Green All if Profit is greater than -£2.50. But the bot just backs at a minute to go and then lays as soon as the match gets going, any ideas please?
Use 'less' than -£2.50
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Dallas wrote:
Niko wrote:Having a bit of trouble greening out at £2.50 loss. I have added another rule Green All if Profit is greater than -£2.50. But the bot just backs at a minute to go and then lays as soon as the match gets going, any ideas please?
Use 'less' than -£2.50
Cheers Dallas, but it is still greening out too soon?!?

What I would like to do is:

Lay £10 on the draw
Wait for a suspension in play
after 90 seconds back the draw and green out
or if that doesnt happen before a loss of £2.50 is reached green out for a £2.50 loss

Cheers
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Green all selections with green all profit condition less than -£2.50 is all you need

Try arming it 60-90secs after the match goes in play, it may be getting triggered when bets are cancelled as it goes in-play and while the market is reforming.
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Thats got it!! :D
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hello!

I'm trying to set up an automatic trade on the market lay draw. But I got a few problems in the first stage:
- when place bet "lay draw" with my options (conditions), I get a message box, where I must confirm or reject the bid. how can I do it on the automatic level?

- I do not understand what I'm doing wrong. Why, when rule done and bet confirmed ("lay draw") , but after a random time, bet again on the same match and quantity bet - random :shock: ?? for example, from 8 matches, on 4-5 matches - more 6 bets each. :oops:

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Dallas
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Have you disabled the Bet Confirmation warning in your main settings?
https://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopi ... 47&t=12880
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Dallas wrote:Have you disabled the Bet Confirmation warning in your main settings?
https://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopi ... 47&t=12880

ohh :roll: it simple :idea: fix it thx

what about 2nd problem?

ps All items on the automated trading are described in help (conditions, signal, parameters, general). But the description is too compressed and not all points are clear to understand. It is not clear what the logic embedded in them.
There is a need for simple examples which would show the operation of various functions.
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eminbe
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Hi Dallas,

How do you set Bet Angel with the correct event time when I open Bet Angel and load some in-play football games in guardian the events time starts from 00:00:00 from the time it's loaded while the game is in play.
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eminbe wrote:Hi Dallas,

How do you set Bet Angel with the correct event time when I open Bet Angel and load some in-play football games in guardian the events time starts from 00:00:00 from the time it's loaded while the game is in play.
Ensure you have added the market before its started ;)
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eminbe
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Hi Dallas,

I am adding more rules and conditions on the Law the Draw automation, I would like to know what are the difference between these 3 rule types:

Close Trade On Selection,
Close Trade On Selection With Greening,
Green All Selections.

Thanks in advance.
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eminbe wrote:Hi Dallas,

I am adding more rules and conditions on the Law the Draw automation, I would like to know what are the difference between these 3 rule types:

Close Trade On Selection,
Close Trade On Selection With Greening,
Green All Selections.

Thanks in advance.
This link will explain the difference
https://www.betangel.com/forum/viewtopi ... 47&t=11408

Close Trade On Selection, & Close Trade On Selection With Greening would be used for individual selections at a time
Green All Selections does all selection in one go
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ShaunWhite
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duggs wrote:I have been trialing this bot i choose matches where i believe they will be two goals or more and the draw price is 3/1 or less (I look at last five matches of each side and if 80% of matches had 2 goals or more this is a selection)
You may already do this, or I may be completely wrong, but I tend to trial a system on all matches/races etc (tiny stakes, min 300 events) ....and then look for the characteristics of the selections that were profitable. Rather than chosing a way to pick selections first, and then trying to make a system fit it. As PW says...'there's a market for every strategy and a strategy for every market'. Try and start with one element fixed, changing both at once creates far to many variables.
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ShaunWhite
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General question...Why do people look for closely matched teams in this strategy?
Is it statistically known to be better, ie less nil-nils or just in the maths?.

I see how the basic maths of an 8.0 nil-nil looks twice as tempting as a 16.0 nil-nil. Same reward, 1/2 the risk.... but doesn't the 8.0 nil-nil have twice the chance of happening, doubling it's risk and making them effectively the same ? That's just about where my 'ungraded' in A-level maths runs out.

My instinct says equally matched teams would draw more often, including 0-0 because a) potentially shutting each other down b) not wanting to risk coming forward in a six-pointer...(as equal performance is often correlated with close league position?)

Doesn't a mismatched game produce a mismatched result, ie not 0-0 ?
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Its to do with the way the odds will move, ideally you want equally matched teams but with a expectation of goals.

If you had a strong fav the draw odds would be high to begin with so it becomes a risky lay to start with, and if the underdog score first the odds will either rise or change very little as the outcome of a draw becomes more and not less likely as you would be expecting the fav to at least equalizie.

So with evenly matched teams the odds will drop no matter who scores and the number of ticks it shortens will be about the same
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Dallas wrote:Its to do with the way the odds will move, ideally you want equally matched teams but with a expectation of goals.

If you had a strong fav the draw odds would be high to begin with so it becomes a risky lay to start with, and if the underdog score first the odds will either rise or change very little as the outcome of a draw becomes more and not less likely as you would be expecting the fav to at least equalizie.

So with evenly matched teams the odds will drop no matter who scores and the number of ticks it shortens will be about the same
Thanks Dallas, I really appreciate the time you took to give me such a full reply....as always.
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