Gambling Review White Paper update

[weemac]

If I were HMRC I'd want to get my hands on the cash that currently goes to BF in the form of PC.

They already get 25% of it.

HMRC are not renowned for accepting 25% when 100% is available.

[Derek27]

A credit card has offered to increase my credit limit. I've always thought having a credit limit substantially larger than you use or are likely to use is only a benefit to a potential fraudster who gets hold of your credit card number, but now I'm wondering if having more available credit will increase my credit score and reduce the chances of affordability checks.

There was a time when you had to do something illegal and worthy of a prison sentence to be looking over your shoulder!

[Crazyskier]

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Interesting update in my inbox this morning:

You’re receiving this email because you signed this petition: “Stop the implementation of betting affordability/financial risk checks ”.

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Parliament is going to debate the petition you signed – “Stop the implementation of betting affordability/financial risk checks ”.

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The debate is scheduled for 26 February 2024.

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Interesting update in my inbox this morning:

You’re receiving this email because you signed this petition: “Stop the implementation of betting affordability/financial risk checks ”.

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Parliament is going to debate the petition you signed – “Stop the implementation of betting affordability/financial risk checks ”.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/649894

The debate is scheduled for 26 February 2024.

Once the debate has happened, we’ll email you a video and transcript.

Thanks,
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You’re receiving this email because you signed this petition: “Stop the implementation of betting affordability/financial risk checks ”.

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What are the odds it will be a late night session with about 8-10 MP's sat in the chamber ?

[Euler]

Now is the time to write to your MP. I've already done so when it looked like it was going to be debated.

[Michael5482]

Now is the time to write to your MP

I have exchanged views with mine, he's firmly in the affordability check camp as is Stuart Andrew. I've exchanged correspondence with them both the last e-mail from my MP was I speak passionately and he understands my concerns but he is in agreement with Stuart Andrew affordability has to be implemented to protect problem gamblers.

The only thing left is for the big boys like 365, Entain, Flutter to take the Government on, they've done it before and hoping they'll do it again. Sad state of affairs either way.

[Euler]

Is he a conservative MP?

[Michael5482]

Is he a conservative MP?

Yes he is unfortunately and toeing what appears to be the Tory party line come the end of the day after the initial correspondence seemed positive. No value in me contacting him anymore, he won't be changing his mind.

[Derek27]

I shared my views of Boris Johnson with my Tory MP (and minister) and asked if she agrees, but never got a response. I guess my address is in her junk folder now.

[jamesedwards]

Don't forget this petition was about the way affordability checks may be implemented and the low thresholds.

Nobody's going to win an argument that says some standardisation of affordability checks are not necessary. But you might win an argument that affordability scores discriminating based on credit file info, occupation, postcode etc are unfair, or that the proposed loss thresholds are too tight.

[Euler]

Is he a conservative MP?

Yes he is unfortunately and toeing what appears to be the Tory party line come the end of the day after the initial correspondence seemed positive. No value in me contacting him anymore, he won't be changing his mind.

I don't think you stand a chance with a Labour MP as they are for equality of outcome, rather than opportunity. So even if it means trashing a business, they don't care.

But if you focus on how the policy doesn't match the conservative value of freedom of choice and a light hand from the state. You have a chance.

My angle would be that I don't see much difference between this policy and traditional left-wing state interference. So won't be casting a vote in your favour if you are no different from the other guys, I'll give them a chance. Sort of thing.

[Derek27]

888 Holdings are blaming below forecast profits on the shift away from online markets and safer gambling measures in the UK.

[Emmson]

I don't think you stand a chance with a Labour MP as they are for equality of outcome, rather than opportunity. So even if it means trashing a business, they don't care.

But if you focus on how the policy doesn't match the conservative value of freedom of choice and a light hand from the state. You have a chance.

My angle would be that I don't see much difference between this policy and traditional left-wing state interference. So won't be casting a vote in your favour if you are no different from the other guys, I'll give them a chance. Sort of thing.

Quite revealing those statements by Euler I must say

[Euler]

If you want to get it voted down or stopped the majority of the house is Conservative, so you need to think like that for any lobbying to have an impact. Especially in an election year.

It's true though that left leaning politics will not think about your specific opportunity or impact on business. It's just the way it is. That's the main difference between the parties.

You need to think like somebody to stand a chance of influencing them. I honestly don't think a Labour MP will care about your gambling or the gambling industry. It's at the opposite end of their spectrum.

If you look at Andrew Rhodes at the GC he clearly thinks that the best way to regulate the market is to slam even minor discretion with a massive fine. That's his mandate from the government. But in fact it's damaging the sports industry while the slots or casino stuff is booming. So it's not actually working.

So, demonstrating a failure to him would involve him feeling that he is not meeting his mandate. Same with politicians.

The interesting thing about the bill now is with an election on the horizon the government will have limited time to push through what they consider important. The bill was not in the Kings speech. It's possible it may be subject to this procedure if they want it to pass in time: -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloture

So it would need just 100 members of parliament to enforce it.

Quite a bit still up in the air.

[Michael5482]

I thought The Racing Post had been a bit quiet regarding affordability checks but looks like they've gone back on the front foot, with multiple articles.

Link to find your MP along with drafted letter regarding affordability and request for your MP to attend the debate on 26th Feb. Mine won't budge maybe your's will if you wish to enage with them.

https://racingdebate.eaction.org.uk/email