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Derek27
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:20 pm
More explosions in Southern Israel. Have they turned off their Iron Dome ?
I thought it would make sense to have one thread per war to avoid conflating them.

From what I've just seen on Sky, the Iron Dome is working well and shooting down the vast majority of Hamas rockets. It was overwhelmed by the sheer number of them on the first day but I'd guess Hamas won't be able to resupply quickly enough to do that again.
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Unless there's a market for it then save it for X?

You could fill the front page with all the various global conflicts.
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:39 pm
I thought it would make sense to have one thread per war to avoid conflating them.
Won't be long before the whole forum is full of them!
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:49 pm
Unless there's a market for it then save it for X?

You could fill the front page with all the various global conflicts.
This is the chill out area and there's really no getting away from it. It will be discussed in offices up and down the country.
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since The Trump administration left a truck load of bad political moves, the chicken s come home to roost.
- moving the American embassy from Telavi to Jerusalem.
- assassination's of the Iranian General Soleimani
As a result , Palestinian Arabs (Sunni) and Persian Iran (Shia) have joined hands , carried out this attack's at a time when the US military is spread thin around the globe.

say the US would keep away from the middle East , this two groups would be at each others throat .

case and point The IRAN / IRAQI wars of the 80s .
Saddam Hussein (Sunni) kept Iran (Shia ) on Check using American weapons . hence protecting the Israelis.

BUT again who did the same mistake of destabilizing a whole region Which resulted to the birth of Osama and Isis ?

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ISLAM and JUDAISM are Patriarchal Religious / political movements with a common ancestor (ABRAHAM )
who had two Sons ( Ismael /Islam) and (Isaac / Judaism /Christian)

as a matter of fact Muslims are more closer to the Jews than they are to their Christian counter parts .
a Jewish believer is allowed to worship and pray in an Mosque lead by an Islamic imam. BUT its forbidden to set foot in a Christian Church.

yet the Jews work more closely with Christians when it comes to the issue of Israel

my opinion : The world should keep off from Family feuds. Let the Jews and Palestinian Arabs , sought their own differences out. They have co-existed for thousands of years.
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Makes you wonder how peaceful the world would be if religion was never invented. :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:57 pm
Makes you wonder how peaceful the world would be if religion was never invented. :)
the royal family's, the rich and the rulers of the world would have invented something similar to brain wash the masses to aid controlling them.
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:57 pm
Makes you wonder how peaceful the world would be if religion was never invented. :)
A religion is a subjective acceptance of something to be true , especially one without empirical verifiable evidence.

so by definition, a FIAT driven economy , is a form a capitalist religion. driven by faith and Trust . All without a real empirical verifiable value behind the Fiat money .

I think religion was a very effective governing tool . an easy to understand formula.

-invent a GOD .
-be the middle man (prophet)
-benefit from the power through association with the authority.
-go out spread the word and build empires.
:lol:
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to75ne wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:01 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:57 pm
Makes you wonder how peaceful the world would be if religion was never invented. :)
the royal family's, the rich and the rulers of the world would have invented something similar to brain wash the masses to aid controlling them.
Yeah, like some post-modern bs, and environmental paganism for peasants.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:49 pm
Unless there's a market for it then save it for X?

You could fill the front page with all the various global conflicts.
Might be time for a general "Today's Conflict" thread, that one should keep running forever

Or could rename the Ukraine one into something like that to keep the war discussion there, and move these posts there

The attack on Israel happened on Putin's birthday so it's all linked anyway one way or another
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Irrespective of your faith or political leanings, the recent baby and child-slaughtering committed by Hamas, can have no justification whatsoever.

These deplorable actions must be condemned for the terrorist atrocities they are. I also believe those condoning such sickening killings should be prosecuted for supporting terrorism.

CS
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Kai wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:21 pm
ShaunWhite wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:49 pm
Unless there's a market for it then save it for X?

You could fill the front page with all the various global conflicts.
Might be time for a general "Today's Conflict" thread, that one should keep running forever

Or could rename the Ukraine one into something like that to keep the war discussion there, and move these posts there

The attack on Israel happened on Putin's birthday so it's all linked anyway one way or another
Remember the What happened to Ukraine crisis thread? thread? :lol:

Ironically, it was James, in what you could call his farewell speech/outburst, who complained we have a Ukraine thread but not one for Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, etc. But even he left out Palestine.

As one idiot who asked the innocent question, "is it too late to plant out my tomato seedlings?" found out, the forum itself decides on the topics. :)
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Crazyskier wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:50 pm
Irrespective of your faith or political leanings, the recent baby and child-slaughtering committed by Hamas, can have no justification whatsoever.

These deplorable actions must be condemned for the terrorist atrocities they are. I also believe those condoning such sickening killings should be prosecuted for supporting terrorism.

CS
Yes, that's something even devout Christians and devout Atheists can agree on. Reports that 240 Israeli babies have been beheaded and burnt, hostages being raped, video of the murder of hostages sent back to their relatives, whether those reports are confirmed or not, what has already happened is way beyond humanity.
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Till the main stream thinking around any Human abject act will be as " can have no justification whatsoever...." , i guess the war forum will populate so as a ladder in the Ascot meeting does.
A good doctor shall to understand the causes to treat the desease properly, and shall prescribe preventive care too. A lowly one will act to the symptoms of the deaseas carefully avoiding to extinguish it. At the end he cares for his own business and patients are only customer.
At least roughly .....
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:57 pm
Makes you wonder how peaceful the world would be if religion was never invented. :)
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky
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