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Anna List
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SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:32 pm
Biggest 2/1 shot your see this year. Cannot see this staying around that price for long.

Same criteria that I regularly tip winners from. Lots of unkown horses from big yards with high profile pedigrees. Albishr is rated 96. 96 in a novice event against many horses who havent even raced. Very very rare to find a flat horse rated over even 80 from a debut let in know beat a 96 rated.

All we need is this horse to run to form and will get the job done. 2/1 is not a price I normally throw up but seeing as I think it should be around 1/3 or 1/2 at a push I think this is real value.

4.45 Kempton- Albishr
Interesting.

Someone once told me not to lay a horse unless there was something in the field that it could be taken on with. I can see 3 candidates, and not all obvious.

Currently Albishr is 3.3 to lay.

I'd be happy to lay below 3.0.

I'd want 4.4 before I backed this one though. The opposition is stronger than first appears.

The betting tells me that someone believes it's in with a shout.

This race, methinks is best sat out unless the odds go above 4.4 or < 3.0.

I've probably talked a load of krap but let's see.
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SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:32 pm
Biggest 2/1 shot your see this year. Cannot see this staying around that price for long.

4.45 Kempton- Albishr
That 2/1 didn't last too long straight out to 3/1 :)
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It went to 4.2 but that was it.

Laying at 4.2 was way too high and not high enough to back.

Didn't look an odds-on chance to me.

I rest my case.
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SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:32 pm
Biggest 2/1 shot your see this year. Cannot see this staying around that price for long.
All 2/1 shots are 2/1. They can't get any smaller or they wouldn't be 2/1 shots. :P
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At the end of the day it ran well and only beaten by a short head, but to rate it as a 1/2,1/3 shot in a Class 5 race with plenty of unknown form was optimistic to say the least. But you live or die on your own opinions when betting so fair play for putting your neck on the line.
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Abishir would have made me a grand tonight. 4 winners and Abishr second :roll:
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SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:36 pm
Abishir would have made me a grand tonight. 4 winners and Abishr second :roll: 20180110_192634_opt.jpg
I've never understood the point of doing multiple bets, unless you're not serious about betting ?
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:25 pm
SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:36 pm
Abishir would have made me a grand tonight. 4 winners and Abishr second :roll: 20180110_192634_opt.jpg
I've never understood the point of doing multiple bets, unless you're not serious about betting ?
Dunno about shr Derek, but there're just a bit of fun sometimes for a couple of quid.

We always have a little acca on some footy scores on a saturday in our house. It sort of makes up for still missing the good old Littlewoods Pools and James Alexander Gordon a bit. Consecutive events are another story I grant you but you'll never get a big win if you're in charge of rolling the whole lot to the last race!
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:37 am
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:25 pm
SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:36 pm
Abishir would have made me a grand tonight. 4 winners and Abishr second :roll: 20180110_192634_opt.jpg
I've never understood the point of doing multiple bets, unless you're not serious about betting ?
Dunno about shr Derek, but there're just a bit of fun sometimes for a couple of quid.

We always have a little acca on some footy scores on a saturday in our house. It sort of makes up for still missing the good old Littlewoods Pools and James Alexander Gordon a bit. Consecutive events are another story I grant you but you'll never get a big win if you're in charge of rolling the whole lot to the last race!
I can understand accumulators if you want to give yourself a chance of a big win, But why pick 6 horses and do 15 doubles & 20 trebles ?

It's money down the drain. You only benefit if you get 4 or 5 winners.

Or perhaps I'm just thinking of my childhood when I got my dad to put on a 5p heinz, and I'd get the 1/3 & 4/5 winning double. :lol:
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I only do multiples for a number of reasons.

1. Most bookies will not let me get on singles- even high street are limited to £10 max.
2. My local bookies wont let me take prices- sp betting only.
3. My bet is is actually saving alot of money, It is written so I cover trebles, 4folds, 5folds and acca in less then 24 bets whereas a full cover would be over 100 bets. I made around £9,000 profit last year from placing this bet.
4. The trebles 4-folds are in their as majority of the time it is just stake return for me to keep ticking over. It also keeps me sane as nothing worse then having 4/5 winners and not getting paid.

I actually do very well from this bet and the bookies take it with no questions asked.

Plus aswell, with my overal strike rate I know I will hit 9 winners in a row over the next 10 years and hopefully I will be lucky to get 7 of them on one slip. Been placing this bet nearly everyday since 2009. I hit £85,000 in 2011, £22,000 in 2013, £5,000 & £3,000 in 2015, £11,000 in 2016 and £2,500 + 3,700 in 2017. My biggest returns on individual slips. I have never hit the 7 out of 7. But had 5 winners 3 times along with 5 winners and non runner.

I will hit the 7... Eventually.
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The bookies LOVE multiple bet punters..it's their fav bet...cos it's such a money earner for them...that's why they spend a lot of time promoting them!! what does that tell you?! :D
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These were my selections for December. Havent had chance to update last week of December due to festive period. I average usually 2 losing months on a level stake a year. Single selections only and I chose a horse from every race at every flat or A/W meeting sometimes twice a day. About 80 points profit in December.

Profit is worked out at industry SP and not BF.
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Black Ice wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:39 am
The bookies LOVE multiple bet punters..it's their fav bet...cos it's such a money earner for them...that's why they spend a lot of time promoting them!! what does that tell you?! :D
Bookies promote Lucky 15s and Yankees etc. If you cover seven selections on a lucky bet it is 440 bets. My bet is 23 bets.

7 selections with covering trebles 4 folds and 5folds with an acca is 92 bets. My bet is written So i cover it in 23 bets.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:37 am
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:25 pm
SeaHorseRacing wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:36 pm
Abishir would have made me a grand tonight. 4 winners and Abishr second :roll: 20180110_192634_opt.jpg
I've never understood the point of doing multiple bets, unless you're not serious about betting ?
Dunno about shr Derek, but there're just a bit of fun sometimes for a couple of quid.

We always have a little acca on some footy scores on a saturday in our house. It sort of makes up for still missing the good old Littlewoods Pools and James Alexander Gordon a bit. Consecutive events are another story I grant you but you'll never get a big win if you're in charge of rolling the whole lot to the last race!
Be jayzuz. Next you'll be talking about Horace Batchelor, that's K-E-Y-N-S-H-A-M, Bristol. :D
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Black Ice wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:39 am
The bookies LOVE multiple bet punters..it's their fav bet...cos it's such a money earner for them...that's why they spend a lot of time promoting them!! what does that tell you?! :D
Only because most punters have a negative edge, if you have a positive edge accumulators make more money than placing the bets individually in the long run.
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